Moz gives thumbs up to SBW joining us.

[Guest]

Seriosuly?

I'm not a fan of signing SBW but I wish people would get over this injury prone bullshit and that he was only hype. He had injuries as a teenager before he left though:

2007 - 21 games
2006 - 21 games

No major injuries to mention since his switch to Union. The only myth is the one his detractors continue to try and validate by saying it over ad over again; that he was injury prone and had no substance in his performances.

Exactly. He was a kid and his body struggled to keep up early in his career. Also, he was being screwed by the Bulldogs from what I hear by being forced to play injured and signing a contract for less than he was worth among other things. As a professional NRL player you get criticised for putting your hand up and saying what about me. I say screw that. The NRL turns over many millions of dollars. All players should get as much of that money as they are worth. To be honest I also think Mundine is a very smart man. He is unbearable at times but he simply understands how things work.

[Rocky Rhodes]

Sonny Bill will be our biggest and best signing since Fittler. We need at least one elite player like all other genuine contenders. Bring on 2013 already...

[Rocky Rhodes]

Even though I have no love for the Scumdogs, the actions of Scummy Bill in walking out on them as he did was an incredibly low act and shows the type of person he is. If he wanted out, there was a decent manner of going about it, as most players do when they decide they want a change. Doing the nightflit overseas without a word as he did was inexcusable.

That's just my personal opinion. And to be honest I was never a fan of the bloke from the start - more hype than substance, probably because he was injured more often than not.
NC

Why not start a bitch act against Anthony Cherrington as well because he fits the criteria highlighted above. At least come up with a disrespectful name. Players can change....eg. Jake Friend.

Most footballers will never be total saints...it's time you faced reality. Support the team and not the shortcomings of certain individuals.

[theGman]

Moz is one of my all time fave Roosters but can't agree with him on Scummy Bill. Great to see him back back in the country though (Moz that is). Only hope that once he retires he'll consider returning to the Roosters in a coaching capacity, even it was only a few weeks a year.

If only Warrington weren't playing the Vermin I'd consider going to the game myself. But I refuse to contribute in any way financially to the Vermin or the Scumdogs, so I'll just hope that someone who does go writes a report on here. A few Vermin injuries courtesy of Moz would be a real bonus - espec to Luke & Inglis. Also, can you imagine the furore of Moz hammered their new 'saviour'??? Reynolds and put him out for a few months. I'd like to see that.

Will happen and it won't be for a few weeks . Our younger forwards are going to benefit greatly.

[novice chook]

I'm not a real fan of Cherrington RR and have said on more than one occasion that if he does not show some semblence of being able to stay on the park for a few games this year, he shouldn't be persisted with. But that probably means he will get a 3 year extension.

Players like Friend stuff up, espec when they are young and easily led. The key is whether they learn from their mistakes - hopefully Jake has. Others keep making the same mistakes over and over (ie Carney/Myles). The best thing the Roosters ever did for Jake is cut him off for the time they did and give him a reality check of what life would be without footy

Accept that I will never be a fan of Scummy Bill. If he ends up at the Roosters, so be it. Just one of many players over the years I wish the Club had not purchased. It's not as if the Roosters have had much luck with expensive imports.

NC

[Cockadoodledoo]

I'm not a real fan of Cherrington RR and have said on more than one occasion that if he does not show some semblence of being able to stay on the park for a few games this year, he shouldn't be persisted with. But that probably means he will get a 3 year extension.

Cherrington assaulted his GF yet your criteria for supporting him is based on how many games he can play, yet Sonny Bill's biggest crime was walking out on a contract with the Bulldogs for which we have no idea if they did all they could to screw him over. I think your stance on SBW seems to be based on who he played for and who perhaps manages him and his acquaintances and not how he lives his life.

[novice chook]

Cherrington assaulted his GF yet your criteria for supporting him is based on how many games he can play, yet Sonny Bill's biggest crime was walking out on a contract with the Bulldogs for which we have no idea if they did all they could to screw him over. I think your stance on SBW seems to be based on who he played for and who perhaps manages him and his acquaintances and not how he lives his life.

My opinion of Cherrington is in part based on the fact he assaulted his GF, I just didn't mention it to lessen the chance of more attacks. In fact I reckon it's karma that he's been injury prone ever since, rather than coincidence.

Fact is I am a Chook and most on here are Roosters. And the two genders think differently, as I'm sure most of you have realised (the Men are from Mars Women are from Venus saying does have much merit).

Us Chooks can take a dislike to a person at first sight. There is no rhyme or reason for it and most blokes call it irrational but that's how it is. And no point in fighting it cause it's a natural reaction.

And for whatever reason I took an instant dislike to both Willie Wanka and Scummy Bill when they first came into grade. And I don't believe it had anything to do with the fact they played for the Dogs. And I've had no reason over the years to doubt my initial reaction to either to be honest.

So my stance is Scummy Bill is even less logical than you thought. It's built around gut instinct. His 'entourage' certainly doesn't help though. Mundane is another I've never been able to take to from day 1.

Be comforted though, I don't just have this reaction to sports players. It's when you have this reaction to a work colleague that it gets tricky.

I can see MRHK shaking his head as he reads this and thinking "she's ever more loony than I thought". But hey, life would be bloody boring if we were all the same. And I can take the snide remarks and comments, because I'm happy with who I am and don't really give a shyte what anyone else thinks.

NC

[Guest]

I can see MRHK shaking his head as he reads this and thinking "she's ever more loony than I thought". But hey, life would be bloody boring if we were all the same. And I can take the snide remarks and comments, because I'm happy with who I am and don't really give a shyte what anyone else thinks.

NC

Yes I was shaking my head. However, I don't think you are loony. You are absolutely entitled to your opinions. I just think you could find a better way of referring to Sonny Bill. You are not alone in not wanting him. As I have said I am 100% behind him coming to the Roosters. To be honest I am drooling at the prospect. I can't wait.

What I would ask NC is you be a little more reasonable in your assessment of him. What may or may not have happened when he left the Bulldogs we will never really know. However, there are always two sides to a story. The Daily Telegraph helped make Sonny bill public enemy #1, just as they did with TC. However, that is a different issue. What I am really saying is look beyond the media representations of him and the most base character assassinations of him that most NRL fans will come up with. I think Sonny Bill is a professional and a gifted footballer. He is a marketing dream, he is a good looking guy, doesn't drink or party and is an absolute beast on the field. Don't be so fast to dump him and Mason together.

Finally when and if Sonny Bill does join us I would suggest that all of us Roosters supporters get behind the bloke and support him. What would make you happier;
A) Sonny Bill quits half way through his first season due to scandal, more money elsewhere or lack of interest

or
B) Sonny Bill tears it up and wins us matches, perhaps even a premiership.

Of course you would want choice A. Come on NC, get over your narrow-minded hatred and get excited. By the way Brad Fittler, Adrian Morley and Craig Wing were all high profile imports and they did okay!

[mightyrooster]

NC I never took to SBW very much either. Fantastic footballer but the way he walked out on the dogs I thought was cowardly and disgraceful. It's not that he walked out on them (that was his perogative if he thought he wasn't being treated fairly), it was the secretive, childish way in which he did it. It wasn't a good look and showed him to be selfish and not a team player. Of course he was quite young then, naive and probably easily influenced by his manager / Mundine etc. Presumably he has matured now like most young men do (footballers or otherwise) -unless we're talking about Todd Carney! I am willing to consider that he has matured and that he now sees that he could have and should have handled things differently. Not sure if he has ever apologised for how he handled it all though?? As to whether I want him at the Roosters, I'm still not sure on that. I'm concerned about the media circus that comes with him. I'm concerned about the supposed length of the contract and I'm concerned about who we may lose to accommodate him. I'm also concerned that we've been bitten too many times by ex-dogs - all from practically the same team!

[novice chook]

MRHK I would call Fittler a high profile import, but not Wing or Morely. Wing was a young kid of 20 who had little first grade experience - his biggest claim to fame was winning Cleo Batchelor of the Year. And Morley when he came, whilst he was an international, was pretty much unheard of in Aus apart from his judiciary record.

To me Fittler is the last high profile, expensive import that was a success and he came in the 90s! Face, it the Roosters have had a diabolical record with expensive imports for over past 10 years.

I'll never get excited over Scummy Bill coming to the Roosters MRHK and I will be cock-a-hoop if the deal for 2013 does not eventuate (Can I make that Option C?). And I don't hate the bloke, I just don't like him - there is a difference you know.

You and I will agree to disagree on this subject - as we appear to on most.

NC

[Darkone]

MRHK I would call Fittler a high profile import, but not Wing or Morely. Wing was a young kid of 20 who had little first grade experience - his biggest claim to fame was winning Cleo Batchelor of the Year. And Morley when he came, whilst he was an international, was pretty much unheard of in Aus apart from his judiciary record.

To me Fittler is the last high profile, expensive import that was a success and he came in the 90s! Face, it the Roosters have had a diabolical record with expensive imports for over past 10 years.

I'll never get excited over Scummy Bill coming to the Roosters MRHK and I will be cock-a-hoop if the deal for 2013 does not eventuate (Can I make that Option C?). And I don't hate the bloke, I just don't like him - there is a difference you know.
You and I will agree to disagree on this subject - as we appear to on most.

NC

Your ar$e needs a beating!

[roostersrule2]

What's with all the thread revivals?

[chook 56]

What's with all the thread revivals?

To see who suffers from foot in mouth disease.

[roostersrule2]

To see who suffers from foot in mouth disease.

I think should make a thread about how SBW will suffer 2nd year syndrome.

[Darkone]

To see who suffers from foot in mouth disease.

Prevalent across the dutch
the chiefs stuffed it up with their desperation