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  • And how did you arrive at any of those conclusions King Bill? Just your "opinion", off the top of your head? Are you an authority on China's Belt and Road initiative - a program that would improve world trade and provide economic viability to many third world countries including the islands of the Pacific. The USA has relinquished World leadership and is not looked to to provide it. Look at the Covid disaster over there and the way that it has been handled. Unfortunately, working class audiences are prone to persuasion by the loudest (often most ignorant) bullying voice. Think Ray Hardley - he's got a loud voice, used to be an auctioneer then a cabbie, then a dog race caller - all eminent qualifications for political commentary.

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    • go easts

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      • Originally posted by Paddo Colt 61 View Post
        And how did you arrive at any of those conclusions King Bill? Just your "opinion", off the top of your head? Are you an authority on China's Belt and Road initiative - a program that would improve world trade and provide economic viability to many third world countries including the islands of the Pacific. The USA has relinquished World leadership and is not looked to to provide it. Look at the Covid disaster over there and the way that it has been handled. Unfortunately, working class audiences are prone to persuasion by the loudest (often most ignorant) bullying voice. Think Ray Hardley - he's got a loud voice, used to be an auctioneer then a cabbie, then a dog race caller - all eminent qualifications for political commentary.
        So teaching Chinese culture in our Universities and schools in exchange for the almighty dollar is a good thing . Please no one could actually believe that china is supplying money to pacific islands or to Victoria for so called belt and road initiative out of the kindness of there heart . As for working class that is what this country was and continues to be built on , I thought by your previous post you were pro the working man but again contradicting yourself . Also you still haven't clarified you comment the other day indicating you read the Tele
        {quoting you} I'm sure that I've read just about all of the stuff you mention in the Tele served up by Year 10 leavers who probably believe it themselves.

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        • I monitor it, good for a laff like all ratbag publications. It's on a par with the Beetoota Advocate.
          1908, with respect, you can google/Wikipedia to learn more about The Belt And Road. It's an export enterprise for the Chinese. They are so brilliant at construction and at building major infrastructure that they export that expertise. The customer pays for that and then they own it, no more Chinese. In the case of Third World countries they loan them the dough (called foreign aid). Unlike the American foreign aid there are no strings. The Americans have always required reforms like privatisation of public utilities, cuts in welfare etc.
          I was brought up in the working class and consider myself still that. If one has no control over his/her employment, working hours and conditions one is working class even though the old industrial working class has gone. I know the working class, old and new, and I know that it is susceptible because its members often don't like to think about politics. Otherwise. it is the creative class. Think the black working class in the US which, despite grievous oppression, dominates (and invented) popular culture world wide and has done for a century.
          There's an excellent description of what the class might become under someone like Dutton in the novel 1984.

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          • Originally posted by Paddo Colt 61 View Post
            And how did you arrive at any of those conclusions King Bill? Just your "opinion", off the top of your head? Are you an authority on China's Belt and Road initiative - a program that would improve world trade and provide economic viability to many third world countries including the islands of the Pacific. The USA has relinquished World leadership and is not looked to to provide it. Look at the Covid disaster over there and the way that it has been handled. Unfortunately, working class audiences are prone to persuasion by the loudest (often most ignorant) bullying voice. Think Ray Hardley - he's got a loud voice, used to be an auctioneer then a cabbie, then a dog race caller - all eminent qualifications for political commentary.
            Again, the indoctrination isn't your fault. They are just too smart

            The ”belt and road” initiative is not from the goodness of their heart. It’s purely a method to gain control of the infrastructure of other states.

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            • Originally posted by Paddo Colt 61 View Post
              I monitor it, good for a laff like all ratbag publications. It's on a par with the Beetoota Advocate.
              1908, with respect, you can google/Wikipedia to learn more about The Belt And Road. It's an export enterprise for the Chinese. They are so brilliant at construction and at building major infrastructure that they export that expertise. The customer pays for that and then they own it, no more Chinese. In the case of Third World countries they loan them the dough (called foreign aid). Unlike the American foreign aid there are no strings. The Americans have always required reforms like privatisation of public utilities, cuts in welfare etc.
              I was brought up in the working class and consider myself still that. If one has no control over his/her employment, working hours and conditions one is working class even though the old industrial working class has gone. I know the working class, old and new, and I know that it is susceptible because its members often don't like to think about politics. Otherwise. it is the creative class. Think the black working class in the US which, despite grievous oppression, dominates (and invented) popular culture world wide and has done for a century.
              There's an excellent description of what the class might become under someone like Dutton in the novel 1984.
              There's also an excellent description of what life really is like in communist states in another of Orwell's novels.



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              • I find it hard to believe the Chinese powers haven't taken anything from the late Milton Friedman.

                The IMF and the world bank have had the same m.o. for years in spreading austerity to struggling countries, why would they stop now?

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                • Is this thread going to overtake the Henson Park thread on the old Wall for number of posts? It's headed that way.

                  Paddo, I think you could be an interesting chap if you just pulled your head in a bit and realised that truly intelligent people have the insight to know they don't have all the answers.

                  Or maybe you just like telling people who don't agree with you they're all uneducated morons. Like the ALP called the electorate after it rejected them at the last election.

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                  • Originally posted by Paddo Colt 61 View Post
                    I monitor it, good for a laff like all ratbag publications. It's on a par with the Beetoota Advocate.
                    1908, with respect, you can google/Wikipedia to learn more about The Belt And Road. It's an export enterprise for the Chinese. They are so brilliant at construction and at building major infrastructure that they export that expertise. The customer pays for that and then they own it, no more Chinese. In the case of Third World countries they loan them the dough (called foreign aid). Unlike the American foreign aid there are no strings. The Americans have always required reforms like privatisation of public utilities, cuts in welfare etc.
                    I was brought up in the working class and consider myself still that. If one has no control over his/her employment, working hours and conditions one is working class even though the old industrial working class has gone. I know the working class, old and new, and I know that it is susceptible because its members often don't like to think about politics. Otherwise. it is the creative class. Think the black working class in the US which, despite grievous oppression, dominates (and invented) popular culture world wide and has done for a century.
                    There's an excellent description of what the class might become under someone like Dutton in the novel 1984.
                    Will never trust the Chinese , I think only a fool would take them at there word. A bit like the pay day lenders , there is always a price to pay .We should never lease , sell any of our country to a foreign government , nor should anyone who is not a Australian citizen and not a dual citizen own or long term lease or lands , ports or infrastructure.Our resources should be for Australia first and export second .No government Liberal or Labour should sell us out . Unfortunately they both have in the past and continue to do so

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                    • Originally posted by Rooster1908 View Post

                      Will never trust the Chinese , I think only a fool would take them at there word. A bit like the pay day lenders , there is always a price to pay .We should never lease , sell any of our country to a foreign government , nor should anyone who is not a Australian citizen and not a dual citizen own or long term lease or lands , ports or infrastructure.Our resources should be for Australia first and export second .No government Liberal or Labour should sell us out . Unfortunately they both have in the past and continue to do so
                      I think you mean the Chinese communist party - you're far too humane sounding a person to think that about Chinese people in general.

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                      • go the roosters

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                        • Originally posted by player 1 View Post

                          I think you mean the Chinese communist party - you're far too humane sounding a person to think that about Chinese people in general.
                          Correct , sorry for that .There are truly wonderful people in all races , corrupt governments are the scourge of the world

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                          • Family dinner tonite at home and it’s Chinese food. Yes I can use chopticks both left and right handed.

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                            • I dont know if PFS has been on the Chookpen & discovered their is a thread on him called "Red Bandana Wearing Wanka" but when I was watching Sports Sunday today which he was on he wasnt wearing a red bandana, he wasnt wearing any bandana.

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                              • Originally posted by Paddo Colt 61 View Post
                                And how did you arrive at any of those conclusions King Bill? J
                                Because I am a ****ing genius and I know everything.

                                The Internet is a place for posting silly things
                                Try and be serious and you will look stupid
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