Teddys role

[Easts75]

Walker will get crushed like a car at the wreckers.
Wighton...1.89m tall
93 kgs...fast and tough.

How are Keary, Flanno, Walker supposed to tackle Wighton? let alone Kikau.
Let alone any of the rampaging Forwards from the Raiders, Panthers, Storm etc.

Cronk managed just fine in D

[Lydon]

The running half back is a myth as Cronk wasn't one and neither is Cleary/Williams- Williams has 5 runs for 26 metres a lot of those in the try he scored- Keary ran 33 metres compared to over 130 for Wighton - needed Keary to run more as his numbers were well down on his usual standards- sure he had a head knock and maybe the vermin game zapped his confidence too as it may have done to others - noting Robbo's players not aligned comments.
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With all due respect I’ve seen Cronk, Cleary and Williams score individual tries that Flanno could only dream of scoring, that is the simple reality right there..
They can threaten the line if and when needed, whether it’s a break from 40 metres out or a break near the line to score..

Whereas Flanagan’s slow coach running style won’t threaten a defensive line in any way shape or form, hence why he has hardly ever broken through the line..

At the end of the day I’m happy to agree to disagree and we don’t need to convince eachother as we have different views..

I guess we will see next year which way Robbo decides to go.

[bondi.boy]

Have them defend on the wing - not 3 in - is there a reason halves defend 3 in especially with Keary and Flanno being slight in statue and frame making them targets in defence- Have to get onto Robbo about it

Good idea.
Show him a photo of Papalii...1.83m tall and 110kgs and ask him how he thinks Walker, Flanno and Keary are going to stop him from scoring.

[King Salvo]

The running half back is a myth as Cronk wasn't one and neither is Cleary/Williams- Williams has 5 runs for 26 metres a lot of those in the try he scored- Keary ran 33 metres compared to over 130 for Wighton - needed Keary to run more as his numbers were well down on his usual standards- sure he had a head knock and maybe the vermin game zapped his confidence too as it may have done to others - noting Robbo's players not aligned comments.

With all due respect I’ve seen Cronk, Cleary and Williams score individual tries that Flanno could only dream of scoring, that is the simple reality right there..
They can threaten the line if and when needed, whether it’s a break from 40 metres out or a break near the line to score..

Whereas Flanagan’s slow coach running style won’t threaten a defensive line in any way shape or form, hence why he has hardly ever broken through the line..

At the end of the day I’m happy to agree to disagree and we don’t need to convince eachother as we have different views..

I guess we will see next year which way Robbo decides to go.
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Flanno has played 28 NRL games and in his first full NRL season compared to Cleary over 100 and Williams 200 (UK/NRL) -Compare apples with apples - i remember Cleary being bagged for his game not running/poor options etc - Cronk had a lot of top notch players when at the Storm though and took a few years to get his game on

[ROC181]

The only way Sam Walker will be good for us is if he has the mongrel that Allan Langer had and after sitting on the sidelines for a year, he would need another year in the Reggie’s to build his body to a decent standard.

I remember when Jamie Soward was supposed to be our answer and when he was given the opportunity with us, he flopped only to go to the Drags and then bite us big time and then again at Penrith.

Sam Walker might be our future half but not next season otherwise he will not be the player we need.

[John Corey]

Flanagan is not the problem. Ppl keep harping about his running game, but Cronk never ran it either. No doubt he is not the most creative, but I don't think he will be here at the club much longer anyway. As soon as Sam Walker is ready I reckon he comes in. And Walker kicks goals.

The problem is our defence. Its nothing like it was.

Next yr we need to rejuvenate this side and I wouldn't be surprised if Sam Walker is considered from the start of the year. I'd also like to see Collins start a lot more. And ffs re sign Angus. He's only young and only gonna get better. I'd take him over Sitili coz something will have to give regarding the Cap. Maybe Boyd retires? I think he should for his own welfare.

[Waylander]

Flanno is playing the role Robbo wanted him to play as i am sure if otherwise messages would have been going out for him to run - its a myth the running half back as Cronk wasn't one and the Raiders half had 5 runs for 26 metres a lot of them in his run to score the try - Keary ran for 33 metres -Wighton for over 100- Tedesco was doing more in attack because Keary's numbers were down and have been for a while.

Not sure the point of wanting to sign Maloney though - people on here are banging on about the aging squad - Maloney will be 35 next year

As usual, you’ve got your facts screwed up. Keary ran for over 100m. Anyone who watched the game would know that.

[Andrew Walker]

Chooks scored the most points during the season so obviously there wasn't much wrong with the attack one would say - the defence was the issue as they had been conceding soft tries in games during the year - in finals you can't afford to do that - conceding 28 and 16 unanswered points in quick fashion was where the games were ultimately lost - if i was Robbo i would have Flanno and Keary defend on the wing so they wont be targets in defence leaving them with more energy in attack.

The running half back is a myth as Cronk wasn't one and neither is Cleary/Williams- Williams has 5 runs for 26 metres a lot of those in the try he scored- Keary ran 33 metres compared to over 130 for Wighton - needed Keary to run more as his numbers were well down on his usual standards- sure he had a head knock and maybe the vermin game zapped his confidence too as it may have done to others - noting Robbo's players not aligned comments.

Walker hasn't played NRL and the Chooks have had a few next big things that ended up leaving the club - Joey Williams/ Sean O'Sullivan/ Jamie Soward - only Soward went on with it somewhat

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Interesting you mention Joe Williams he did play 49 1st grade games I knew him well through Touch footy I think he had a few issues off field not behavioural more inner demons which I think held him back He is doing some fantastic work with indigenous people now running a suicide awareness group called The Enemy Within The work he does there is 1000 times more valuable than anything he has done is sport I have great respect and admiration for the work he is doing He is making a difference to his people

[top_joe]

Until Walker is ready I would look to someone like Jimmy BBQ Maloney for a season. Experience, reliable goal kicker, knows how to manage a game, loves the club

Here is where I completely agree with you. An old head like Blake Green would have been great (perhaps). Flip side is Flanno is just a kid essentially in his 1st year so it was a big ask.

[Waylander]

Interestingly, Cronk in the post game analysis insisted that Flano would become a dominant half in the NRL. Too early in his career to write him off, but he definitely needs to improve his attacking game. He needs to dig into the line more before he passes, and make the occasional run just to kept the defence guessing. His kicking game is good and his defence is solid. I think he has promise, he seems to have a cool head, and by all accounts is a keen student of the game. Another full off season, hopefully with Cronk involved in his tuition, should see him continue to develop & an improved 2021.

[King Salvo]

Sam walker an billy smith kick goals pretty well

Its not the NFL so they can't bring out a player just to kick the goals though

[King Salvo]

As usual, you’ve got your facts screwed up. Keary ran for over 100m. Anyone who watched the game would know that.

Not according to fox match centre Keary 33 metres and 36 super coach points only BMorris with 35 and Sitilli with 10 were scored lower. Keary had a rough last 3 weeks of footy one has to say so the club needs to maybe encourage him to not play SOO

[Mad_Rabid_Rooster]

I think we should give Flanno another full off season and next year to progress. Obviously Robbo saw enough in him to bring him to the club in the first place. Let's resist the temptation to elevate Walker too prematurely at the risk of stunting his career growth and development.

I don't like the Maloney idea either - we need to focus on youth, natural talent and enthusiasm.

[Sizzle]

Not according to fox match centre Keary 33 metres and 36 super coach points only BMorris with 35 and Sitilli with 10 were scored lower. Keary had a rough last 3 weeks of footy one has to say so the club needs to maybe encourage him to not play SOO

He had 10 runs for 91m mate. Keary also had 3 try assists in the penrith game so I don't really know how you could say he is in poor form. If you are blaming anyone it should be Flano who adds so much pressure onto Keary due to his lack of runs. Also Keary is so deserving of playing origin, has missed out a few years now due to injuries and what not so it would be cruel of the club to say he shouldn't play SOO. I would absolutely love to see Keary in that arena with some of our other boys as he is built for the big stage.

[roosterproud]

Personally if paul green isnt working next year i would get him back coaching with us. He and trent looked closeas mates and worked well