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Originally posted by Bansai Pipeline View PostThis thread is brilliant.
Brain, Keith and Steakface by and large on the money on a number of fronts: Manu, Walker, Flanno....
Admin_6 consistently wrong.
The game on Saturday was perfectly made for someone like Joey Manu. Canberra were soft as butter and we didn’t have to earn any of our field position, don’t be fooled into how good we looked on Saturday we were very lucky on a lot of fronts.
Having 2 genuine playmakers is critical, don’t let one game fool you.
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Originally posted by Rooster_6 View Post
There’s no place for ball running halves with little to no ball playing ability in today’s game.
The game on Saturday was perfectly made for someone like Joey Manu. Canberra were soft as butter and we didn’t have to earn any of our field position, don’t be fooled into how good we looked on Saturday we were very lucky on a lot of fronts.
Having 2 genuine playmakers is critical, don’t let one game fool you.
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Originally posted by Dr. Voodoo Man View Post
How can you talk with your head wedged so far up your clacker bud?
I bet you Ricky and the raiders were hoping to easily play into form in this game but one genius in Tedesco turned it around and the rest fed on it.
Manu is a great player I would never want him to leave and he could end up staying and playing 5/8th who knows keary from now on will be a week to week proposition with his headknocks history.
But there will be big bucks thrown at him by the Warriors and I am not sure if our budget will accommodate him.
Even at center our coach gives him a free license and I also noticed he done that Suali as he bobbed up a few times on the other side of the field last few weeks-Thats Trus and faith by your coach ..he encourages all players to play there natural game as long as they can defend it.Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe
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Originally posted by Rooster_6 View Post
There’s no place for ball running halves with little to no ball playing ability in today’s game.
The game on Saturday was perfectly made for someone like Joey Manu. Canberra were soft as butter and we didn’t have to earn any of our field position, don’t be fooled into how good we looked on Saturday we were very lucky on a lot of fronts.
Having 2 genuine playmakers is critical, don’t let one game fool you.
Hutch or Manu at 6 ?
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Originally posted by Bondicigar View Post
Hutch or Manu at 6 ?
The 2 key issues I struggle with are distribution & kicking. If Walker is our only recognised kicker then it's way too easy for the defence to pick him off and put pressure on him, we saw this with Lam against Canberra every long kick he was under enormous pressure because Canberra knew which way it was going every time on last tackle. Teddy & Manu can contribute to the short kicking game but they don't have long kicking games. Neither have great long passing games either and that kind of distribution, even just the threat of it is so important so you keep the opposition team guessing and stretched across their defensive line, I think you could make an argument here that once Verrills and Radley are back that the distribution becomes less of an issue but having Verrills and Radley back on the same field still feels like a bit of a pipe dream at the moment and when Radley comes off you would have to substitute him with Keighran so we didn't lose anything in distribution so you're relying on a lot of other players to be available for selection to make it work.
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Joey Manu is definitely suited to the centres, but his size and athleticism enables him to shine in positions like 5/8 and fullback.
I mentioned in a previous post that I would have liked him to line up against Jack Wighton, who seems to kill our team (along with Papali) every time we play the raiders.
Wighton seems to relish playing against smaller halves (insert here Lam, Flannagan, Keary) , and once he gets his running game going, he has been lethal in the past against the roosters.
Last weekends game against the roosters was the quietest I have seen him - I don't know if it was a coincidence, or there was psychological issue of him having to line up against a bigger body like Joey., but he was definitely off his game.
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Originally posted by Rooster_6 View Post
Personally I would still pick Hutch & Lam over Manu at 6. And to be honest we're probably comparing the wrong players because Tedesco played as the 6 in attack, Manu played as the fullback so I think it's probably more a question of whether Tedesco is a better 6 in attack than Lam/Hutchinson.
The 2 key issues I struggle with are distribution & kicking. If Walker is our only recognised kicker then it's way too easy for the defence to pick him off and put pressure on him, we saw this with Lam against Canberra every long kick he was under enormous pressure because Canberra knew which way it was going every time on last tackle. Teddy & Manu can contribute to the short kicking game but they don't have long kicking games. Neither have great long passing games either and that kind of distribution, even just the threat of it is so important so you keep the opposition team guessing and stretched across their defensive line, I think you could make an argument here that once Verrills and Radley are back that the distribution becomes less of an issue but having Verrills and Radley back on the same field still feels like a bit of a pipe dream at the moment and when Radley comes off you would have to substitute him with Keighran so we didn't lose anything in distribution so you're relying on a lot of other players to be available for selection to make it work.
I thought Robbo summed Manu up well when he described him as being not natural but classy.
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