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  • #31
    Originally posted by eddie View Post
    Btw.................I didn't realize I was coming across as angry, especially in the Lam thread.
    But Crawley...................I can't stands him.
    Lol...you know I was thinking of you Eddie when watching that drivel from Crawley last night.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by ROC181 View Post

      If you look at the draws over the past couple of years, the Roosters and Storm get the worst draws with us and Storm having to play the top 8 teams, or at least the top 6 teams twice, like we did last year...Penrith's draw last year was probably chosen by Ivan Cleary with all the top 4 teams from the pervious year only playing Penrith once, and that was as Penrith the Home team. Penriths draw this year is a little more difficult, but still they're not playing the Raiders at their home ground. The Raiders also don't play Souffs twice either. ...So in other words, the draws are manipulated to make the top clubs, (Roosters and Storm) take a harder path to win the comp. It's not the luck of the draw...It's the luck of who the NRL wants to make it easier to get to the GF. It's the cross we must bear for having the best people managing it, but Crawley won't tell you about it.
      Couldn’t agree more Roc. Well said!

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      • #33
        What about in the 50s and 60s when Souffs and St George dominated. The comp was more unfair back then.

        Big Jack said of the St George era 'The question every season was 'who would come second?''

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        • #34
          Thankfully I stopped watching these shows years ago,
          Born and bred in the eastern suburbs.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Larry Long Balls View Post

            Thats the place. Sorry been over 20 years.
            Don't apologize mate. Nowadays it's the Aurora which is about 20m closer to the offices...

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Jacks Fur Coat View Post

              Don't laugh mate...it could well happen. Will be probably just wearing Oz tags for tackles soon so..
              Yeah, I know. The game's becoming a joke, run by a bunch of old women.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by ROC181 View Post

                A usual caller yesterday on Talkin Sport said that there is no comp in the world in any sport that has all teams equal in success. There is usually 3-4 teams that can win it...the rest are just making up the numbers. He made a lot of sense.
                Yet we want to keep expanding our comps, spreading the talent pool even thinner.

                i think in the US, it is very hard to pick the winner in the NHL, and the MLB every season.


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                • #38
                  Originally posted by player 1 View Post
                  Welcome to the new woke world - where anything other than totally equal outcomes for everyone is proof of social injustice.

                  Why don't they just not play any games at all and declare that everyone finished equal first.

                  Get used to it, it's only going to get worse. As nobody wants to get cancelled for publicly calling out this world wide lunacy.
                  Wont be long before all players who dont win a premiership ring, will get a congratulatory 'participation certificate' from the NRL !

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                  • #39
                    Who woulda thought? Just about all those whinging about "political" comments in threads are are busier here than a one armed bricklayer in Mosul. How "woke", "Greta" and "socialist" relate to to a conversation about media hacks is well beyond me. Those Murdoch toadies would be horrified, once they sobered up, to think that any reader had identified a Left message in their inane ramblings.
                    Ah no, our crew want the right to be political whenever an opportunity presents (or doesn't present) but are intolerant of dissenting opinions.
                    Lazza's News Ltd background explains a lot - ya never lose that smart arse Holt Street group think. For others, the need to conform to what they imagine is the majority opinion, that progressive is bad, seems stronger than any thoughts about their own economic self interests like not having wages ripped off, not being able to break out of casual employment etc.. etc...etc.

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                    • #40
                      Crawleys Latest....

                      NRL 2021: Best and worst recruitment decisions exposes poor salary cap management

                      The best and worst of NRL recruitment shows why battling clubs should stop using the salary cap as a cop out for poor management, writes Paul Crawley.
                      Paul Crawley
                      Follow
                      4 min read
                      March 18, 2021 - 7:00AM
                      News Corp Australia Sports Newsroom

                      Disgruntled fans from struggling clubs often look at the Sydney Roosters’ star-studded roster as proof the salary cap is a farce.
                      Yet we conveniently forget stories like the one James Tedesco told when he originally quit Wests Tigers in 2017.
                      What Tedesco said back then was he could have got more money to stay at the Tigers but chose the Roosters because “it was a good opportunity for me to be at a strong club”.
                      Now cynics will say, ‘pull the other leg, Teddy, of course it was about the money’.
                      But what can’t be disputed is that while Tedesco was going to be well paid wherever he went, he has since won two premierships with his career soaring to phenomenal heights.
                      Meanwhile, the NRL’s longest finals drought stretching back to 2011 continues at the Tigers.
                      So, is it the Roosters’ fault Tedesco took less money to leave, or should the Tigers shoulder that responsibility for not being able to convince a local junior to stay after offering him more money?
                      Because this is the game within the game that separates the best from the rest … salary cap or no salary cap; this century or the one before.



                      It’s not simply about identifying the right players at the right time, but just as crucially signing them at the right price so it doesn’t weaken a roster in other areas.
                      And Tedesco is painful proof why the Tigers are the reigning kings in the NRL’s Hall of Fame for recruitment stuff ups, while it points directly to why clubs like the Roosters, Melbourne, Penrith, Canberra and South Sydney seem to be charging further ahead by the season.
                      The game’s best player will dig another knife into the Tigers’ hearts this Sunday when the former Camden Rams junior leads the Roosters onto Campbelltown Stadium.
                      Throw in the fact the Tigers let Ryan Papenhuyzen and Josh Addo-Carr go in recent years and it must be even more heartbreaking for their fans.
                      Just as Canterbury would be having nightmares after watching the ageless Morris twins carve up the Sea Eagles.
                      It’s hard to believe the Bulldogs let them walk at the end of 2018 because the club wanted to focus on the future.
                      Yet, at 34, the Morris boys remain in the top five players of their respective positions, both playing on bargain deals at the Roosters while the Bulldogs continue their rebuild.

                      Damien Cook was another let go by the Dogs before his career rocketed at Souths.
                      Likewise, former Canterbury pup Reed Mahoney, part of a player swap some years ago that saw Parramatta pay the Dogs a paltry $1500 for Mahoney’s release.
                      Across the league there are a stack of examples as to why getting recruitment and retention right is arguably even more important than coming up with the best coaching tactics, facilities and sport science innovations.
                      This season Tyson Frizell is the early contender for buy of the year at Newcastle while angry St George Illawarra fans are left to curse another one that got away.
                      Just as Manly let go of Addin Fonua-Blake a season after Api Koroisau went to Penrith so Manly could retain Manese Fainu, who then signed a two-year extension when he was already stood down while awaiting a court trial.
                      That’s left the Sea Eagles without a recognised dummy-half this year until they signed Karl Lawton from the Warriors on Wednesday.
                      Stop and contemplate that for a moment.

                      Then you’ve got Viliame Kikau, Kalyn Ponga and Brandon Smith who all escaped the Cowboys’ clutches.
                      But a club like Melbourne can lose Cooper Cronk, Billy Slater and Cameron Smith in quick time and replace them with Papenhuyzen, Jahrome Hughes and Harry Grant, and the system just clicks along like nothing changed.
                      At Penrith we are only now really starting to see the rewards for the work Phil Gould did to create a junior development system that is the envy of all clubs.
                      While Canberra is back on the rugby league map by thinking outside the square and going to England to pick up bargains that turned into overnight NRL sensations.
                      It shows it can be done if you do it right.
                      One of the biggest talking points to come out of round one was the growing gap between the haves and have-nots.
                      Even though it is too early to start making any definitive judgments, there are legitimate fears it might only get worse as a result of the new rules designed to speed up the game.
                      Yet it’s not the salary cap causing the problem.
                      For example, in The Daily Telegraph’s Rich 100 last year Daly Cherry-Evans was listed as the top paid player on $1.25 million-a-season.
                      Yet at the Roosters’ Luke Keary was on a reported $700,000, a massive $525,000 less than DCE.
                      While Keary played all over Cherry-Evans last week, there is no doubt he has a far better roster around him.
                      But just looking at their respective salaries highlights why the devil is in the detail — because it’s not the so-called sombrero giving the Roosters their edge, but smart management.
                      The good clubs have always known that opportunity for success is the greatest temptation they have to offer, which only makes the job for struggling clubs even tougher — often thrusting them into panic buying.
                      Long before the salary cap even existed, supercoach Jack Gibson used to say winning starts in the front office.
                      And there have been multiple changes on and off the field in the years since, but that old adage is as important today as ever.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Paddo Colt 61 View Post
                        Who woulda thought? Just about all those whinging about "political" comments in threads are are busier here than a one armed bricklayer in Mosul. How "woke", "Greta" and "socialist" relate to to a conversation about media hacks is well beyond me. Those Murdoch toadies would be horrified, once they sobered up, to think that any reader had identified a Left message in their inane ramblings.
                        Ah no, our crew want the right to be political whenever an opportunity presents (or doesn't present) but are intolerant of dissenting opinions.
                        Lazza's News Ltd background explains a lot - ya never lose that smart arse Holt Street group think. For others, the need to conform to what they imagine is the majority opinion, that progressive is bad, seems stronger than any thoughts about their own economic self interests like not having wages ripped off, not being able to break out of casual employment etc.. etc...etc.
                        "Busier than a one armed bricklayer in Baghdad"...first time I heard that was in the classic "Kenny"...gee that was a good flick.
                        #We Stand with ourJewish community#

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by ROC181 View Post
                          Crawleys Latest....

                          NRL 2021: Best and worst recruitment decisions exposes poor salary cap management

                          The best and worst of NRL recruitment shows why battling clubs should stop using the salary cap as a cop out for poor management, writes Paul Crawley.
                          Paul Crawley
                          Follow
                          4 min read
                          March 18, 2021 - 7:00AM
                          News Corp Australia Sports Newsroom

                          Disgruntled fans from struggling clubs often look at the Sydney Roosters’ star-studded roster as proof the salary cap is a farce.
                          Yet we conveniently forget stories like the one James Tedesco told when he originally quit Wests Tigers in 2017.
                          What Tedesco said back then was he could have got more money to stay at the Tigers but chose the Roosters because “it was a good opportunity for me to be at a strong club”.
                          Now cynics will say, ‘pull the other leg, Teddy, of course it was about the money’.
                          But what can’t be disputed is that while Tedesco was going to be well paid wherever he went, he has since won two premierships with his career soaring to phenomenal heights.
                          Meanwhile, the NRL’s longest finals drought stretching back to 2011 continues at the Tigers.
                          So, is it the Roosters’ fault Tedesco took less money to leave, or should the Tigers shoulder that responsibility for not being able to convince a local junior to stay after offering him more money?
                          Because this is the game within the game that separates the best from the rest … salary cap or no salary cap; this century or the one before.



                          It’s not simply about identifying the right players at the right time, but just as crucially signing them at the right price so it doesn’t weaken a roster in other areas.
                          And Tedesco is painful proof why the Tigers are the reigning kings in the NRL’s Hall of Fame for recruitment stuff ups, while it points directly to why clubs like the Roosters, Melbourne, Penrith, Canberra and South Sydney seem to be charging further ahead by the season.
                          The game’s best player will dig another knife into the Tigers’ hearts this Sunday when the former Camden Rams junior leads the Roosters onto Campbelltown Stadium.
                          Throw in the fact the Tigers let Ryan Papenhuyzen and Josh Addo-Carr go in recent years and it must be even more heartbreaking for their fans.
                          Just as Canterbury would be having nightmares after watching the ageless Morris twins carve up the Sea Eagles.
                          It’s hard to believe the Bulldogs let them walk at the end of 2018 because the club wanted to focus on the future.
                          Yet, at 34, the Morris boys remain in the top five players of their respective positions, both playing on bargain deals at the Roosters while the Bulldogs continue their rebuild.

                          Damien Cook was another let go by the Dogs before his career rocketed at Souths.
                          Likewise, former Canterbury pup Reed Mahoney, part of a player swap some years ago that saw Parramatta pay the Dogs a paltry $1500 for Mahoney’s release.
                          Across the league there are a stack of examples as to why getting recruitment and retention right is arguably even more important than coming up with the best coaching tactics, facilities and sport science innovations.
                          This season Tyson Frizell is the early contender for buy of the year at Newcastle while angry St George Illawarra fans are left to curse another one that got away.
                          Just as Manly let go of Addin Fonua-Blake a season after Api Koroisau went to Penrith so Manly could retain Manese Fainu, who then signed a two-year extension when he was already stood down while awaiting a court trial.
                          That’s left the Sea Eagles without a recognised dummy-half this year until they signed Karl Lawton from the Warriors on Wednesday.
                          Stop and contemplate that for a moment.

                          Then you’ve got Viliame Kikau, Kalyn Ponga and Brandon Smith who all escaped the Cowboys’ clutches.
                          But a club like Melbourne can lose Cooper Cronk, Billy Slater and Cameron Smith in quick time and replace them with Papenhuyzen, Jahrome Hughes and Harry Grant, and the system just clicks along like nothing changed.
                          At Penrith we are only now really starting to see the rewards for the work Phil Gould did to create a junior development system that is the envy of all clubs.
                          While Canberra is back on the rugby league map by thinking outside the square and going to England to pick up bargains that turned into overnight NRL sensations.
                          It shows it can be done if you do it right.
                          One of the biggest talking points to come out of round one was the growing gap between the haves and have-nots.
                          Even though it is too early to start making any definitive judgments, there are legitimate fears it might only get worse as a result of the new rules designed to speed up the game.
                          Yet it’s not the salary cap causing the problem.
                          For example, in The Daily Telegraph’s Rich 100 last year Daly Cherry-Evans was listed as the top paid player on $1.25 million-a-season.
                          Yet at the Roosters’ Luke Keary was on a reported $700,000, a massive $525,000 less than DCE.
                          While Keary played all over Cherry-Evans last week, there is no doubt he has a far better roster around him.
                          But just looking at their respective salaries highlights why the devil is in the detail — because it’s not the so-called sombrero giving the Roosters their edge, but smart management.
                          The good clubs have always known that opportunity for success is the greatest temptation they have to offer, which only makes the job for struggling clubs even tougher — often thrusting them into panic buying.
                          Long before the salary cap even existed, supercoach Jack Gibson used to say winning starts in the front office.
                          And there have been multiple changes on and off the field in the years since, but that old adage is as important today as ever.
                          Wow, Crawley actually talking sense for once without his usual Souffs / Bennett / Stuart / Faiders biassed cap on.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Jacks Fur Coat View Post

                            "Busier than a one armed bricklayer in Baghdad"...first time I heard that was in the classic "Kenny"...gee that was a good flick.
                            your true colours are coming out. i heard that when the two of you have your weekly chat you drink chardonnay and he drinks bundy and coke out of respect for the other, kind of like smoking the peace pipe

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by mightyrooster View Post

                              Lol...you know I was thinking of you Eddie when watching that drivel from Crawley last night.
                              Hi MR.................hope you are well.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by mightyrooster View Post

                                Wow, Crawley actually talking sense for once without his usual Souffs / Bennett / Stuart / Faiders biassed cap on.
                                I am amazed.

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