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  • Originally posted by King Salvo View Post
    Is it known if he is coming or can actual play the 13 player game - I can watch a video on surgery but that doesn't make me a surgeon though.

    Big ask to think he will make such a difference though - Better of sticking with SV/Freddy and Benny M
    We are one injury away from bringing a park footballer into the team in a key position (hooker or half). I’d rather a highly experienced and athletic Rugby superstar be around to fill that gap if it materialises. What’s more this guy is an inspirational leader and we’re a bit short of them too.

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    • Originally posted by Spirit of 66 View Post

      We are one injury away from bringing a park footballer into the team in a key position (hooker or half). I’d rather a highly experienced and athletic Rugby superstar be around to fill that gap if it materialises. What’s more this guy is an inspirational leader and we’re a bit short of them too.
      Isn't Marsche a park footballer? I would say we are already there.

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      • Originally posted by dice View Post

        Interesting that Storm pick many of their players including rejects like Addo-Carr and Papenhuyzen based on physical attributes (speed or size), and can convert them into NRL stars. Yet we apparently cannot convert an already talented all-blacks star into a bench utility.
        They had a league background though for starters and are also backs- Dummy Halves have to do a lot of defense though - yes it will be said he wont be playing big minutes but still will be doing more defense in these spells than he would do in a whole rugby game. Faster game than Union which is very much stop , start and slow.

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        • Originally posted by Larry Long Balls View Post

          Isn't Marsche a park footballer? I would say we are already there.
          And if Sam is available ball year nor injuries what use is this bloke then .If he was available not then yes but round 14 or 16 not worth it
          Last edited by Rooster1908; 04-21-2021, 05:31 PM.

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          • Originally posted by King Salvo View Post

            They had a league background though for starters and are also backs- Dummy Halves have to do a lot of defense though - yes it will be said he wont be playing big minutes but still will be doing more defense in these spells than he would do in a whole rugby game. Faster game than Union which is very much stop , start and slow.
            he's been an all black for years, wouldn't be able to get to where he is with out great work ethic and skill.

            he's got a league background and been a league fan so he knows what hes getting himself into. he will be fine, especially him playing as a 14.

            I would rather play an elite rugby player and all black with 66 caps than a bloke who was playing ron massey cup a few weeks ago.

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            • Originally posted by Spirit of 66 View Post

              We are one injury away from bringing a park footballer into the team in a key position (hooker or half). I’d rather a highly experienced and athletic Rugby superstar be around to fill that gap if it materialises. What’s more this guy is an inspirational leader and we’re a bit short of them too.
              Have to wait and see if if does materialise.

              As i posted earlier not a great success with rugby halves moving to league over the years- yes people will say what about Wally Lewis /Ricky Stuart/Cooper Cronk - dont know of others off the top of my head from a halves perspective.

              Brian Smith / Brad Burke and Kenny Wright ( i know he also played centre for the Wallabies in Union as well) were not great successes one has to say.
              Last edited by King Salvo; 04-21-2021, 05:13 PM.

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              • Originally posted by King Salvo View Post

                They had a league background though for starters and are also backs- Dummy Halves have to do a lot of defense though - yes it will be said he wont be playing big minutes but still will be doing more defense in these spells than he would do in a whole rugby game. Faster game than Union which is very much stop , start and slow.
                They were inexperienced kids rejected by other clubs and Storm taught them how to play.

                So your concern has evolved to fitness? Robbo has already mentioned that TJ would not be ready from a fitness perspective for many weeks.

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                • Originally posted by King Salvo View Post

                  Have to wait and see if if does materialise.

                  As i posted earlier not a great success with rugby halves moving to league over the years- yes people will say what about Wally Lewis /Ricky Stuart/Cooper Cronk - dont know of others off the top of my head from a halves perspective.

                  Brian Smith / Brad Burke and Kenny Wright ( i know he also played centre for the Wallabies in Union as well) were not great successes one has to say.
                  So you name three great and three not so great but you have taken the glass half empty view.

                  I don't see a gun All Black amongst them though. Every player is different. I trust Trent knows what he is doing, where he wants him to play and wouldn't be doing it for a handful of games if he didn't think he would have a great impact for us to win a comp. If he thought we had no chance this year and needed a backup hooker then he would have just stuck with who we have and make this year a learning experience for our young guys or sign someone like Baptiste.

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                  • Originally posted by RoosterFanNZ View Post

                    he's been an all black for years, wouldn't be able to get to where he is with out great work ethic and skill.

                    he's got a league background and been a league fan so he knows what hes getting himself into. he will be fine, especially him playing as a 14.

                    I would rather play an elite rugby player and all black with 66 caps than a bloke who was playing ron massey cup a few weeks ago.
                    The bloke playing Ron Massey cup a few weeks ago( Benny Marschke) has shown great perseverance though to be playing NRL - yes injuries accelerated this opportunity but you have to put yourself in that position - There are a number of Bears players that were playing Ron Massey Cup in that same team including his twin brother Jesse who was in the Chooks NRL 21 a few times.

                    Not sure if people have watched Ron Massey Cup and or Sydney Shield matches -you don't see players with beer guts or oldies playing- they are pretty fit and a lot would be playing for little or no money - train twice a week and hold down full time jobs - keeping the dream alive so to speak

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                    • Why is there even discussion.. ?? we are busted and yet somehow might be securing an All Black fly half ( no comparison to SBW) for 130k...

                      Roll out the red, white and blue carpet !

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                      • Originally posted by dice View Post

                        They were inexperienced kids rejected by other clubs and Storm taught them how to play.

                        So your concern has evolved to fitness? Robbo has already mentioned that TJ would not be ready from a fitness perspective for many weeks.
                        Defence would be a concern as well in playing dummy half. In Rugby he averages 5 tackles a game when playing for the Hurricanes and All Blacks - wingers make more tackles in league than that
                        Last edited by King Salvo; 04-21-2021, 07:29 PM.

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                        • Originally posted by Rooster1908 View Post

                          And if Sam is available ball year nor injuries what use is this bloke then .If he was available not then yes but round 14 or 16 not worth it
                          Nah Sam isn't going to be ready to play 80 minutes every week for the rest of the season. This dude might be able to play #6 as well.

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                          • Originally posted by Monaco's Fan Club View Post
                            Why is there even discussion.. ?? we are busted and yet somehow might be securing an All Black fly half ( no comparison to SBW) for 130k...

                            Roll out the red, white and blue carpet !
                            Because a number of posters on here had Keighran as the savior now it's TJ Perenara- Expectations could well be too high or in line with Anzac Day a Bridge Too Far perhaps - I am unsure if many have watched either player play or enough of them though which might be a mute point.

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                            • perenara's no certainty to go well in the nrl but our club knows what it's doing.
                              starting him off as 14 is sensible. for mine he's more likely to exceed expectations and get a starting spot in the halves than fail on the bench

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                              • Originally posted by Larry Long Balls View Post

                                Nah Sam isn't going to be ready to play 80 minutes every week for the rest of the season. This dude might be able to play #6 as well.
                                I have a feeling TJ is being bought over to play 6 as opposed to 9..

                                Obviously as the season goes on possible injury may dictate otherwise but I just feel the initial thought is to partner him with SW!

                                In saying that I won’t be surprised if he’s eased in off the bench as mentioned by others who on here..
                                Last edited by Lydon; 04-21-2021, 06:16 PM.

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