Gerard Sutton is a Cheat

[Headless Chook]

Rival fans and "neutrals" with big gobs in media go on about how we benefit from bad officiating... well they are less concerned about rules and more interested in what suits them. No point in discussion with these types and taking their bait. Call them out but let them stand on their own with their single solitary brain cell and look like the fool that they are.

That is so true. So many comments on social media saying we have benefitted from getting the refs calls for years. A lot of them have highlighted the 6 again call in the GF but they don't get it, that the original call was wrong and he changed it to the 'corect call'. I just shrug my shoulders and move on, no point arguing with idiots on facebook.

[A Country Member]

Annesley analyses Verrills tackle on Sorensen.

”a copybook tackle”

Do we get the two points for the win now?

[dice]

Interesting stat quoted by "The Oracle" in his Twitter feed:

Since 2020 Roosters winning % under Gerard Sutton is 28.5 % Under all other referees it’s 71.5%.

You need to bear in mind Sutton refs the top games. I read somewhere that 4 of our 10 losses were against Panthers, 2 against Storm, Souths, Eels, etc.

Having said that. I recall another game vs Panthers where JWH was sin binned. Then in the last few minutes of the game the Panthers committed a blatant professional foul and Sutton refused to sin bin.

[Spirit of 66]

You need to bear in mind Sutton refs the top games. I read somewhere that 4 of our 10 losses were against Panthers, 2 against Storm, Souths, Eels, etc.

Having said that. I recall another game vs Panthers where JWH was sin binned. Then in the last few minutes of the game the Panthers committed a blatant professional foul and Sutton refused to sin bin.

Yes, I understand that. So I'll take solace in the fact that the more games he is our referee, the less likely we will be regarded as a top team and therefore be "worthy" of him as a referee.

[Spirit of 66]

That is so true. So many comments on social media saying we have benefitted from getting the refs calls for years. A lot of them have highlighted the 6 again call in the GF but they don't get it, that the original call was wrong and he changed it to the 'corect call'. I just shrug my shoulders and move on, no point arguing with idiots on facebook.

The magnificent irony of that call was that Cummins was trying his level best to screw us - as he had done for years even going back to Anasta's "you're off your head" call - but he got confused. He didn't help us at all, but he will be forever associated in the eyes of idiots on social media as giving us a premiership. It must be a special kind of hell for him.

[Recky62]

Threaten to forfeit the next game with Sutton involved? I know that sounds bad, but it would bring the issue to a head.

Maybe not forfeit the whole game, BUT, if the arrogant turd even ****s up one call , yank the team off the field …I’m of the firm belief that it will start conversations at a minimum …and I reckon we’d have Ricky Stuart on side , his been dudded nearly as much as us this year

[chopstiks]

This Annesley robot feeds us these weekly lines that unfortunately the wrong decision was made in the heat of the moment, really sorry about that, and all these other empty platitudes.

For me, the solution is very simple... get rid of this obsession with speeding up the game and also telling us how much pressure the referees are under and finally do something about it once and for all ffs.
Try giving the bunker the ultimate power over 80- minutes, such as the ability to reverse bad calls since they aren't in this high pressure cooker that Annesley keeps hiding behind. Now I know the bunker is only as good as the muppet in there, that could do with an overhaul as well. I just cannot accept that hasty Verrills panic penalty ... when they took several minutes top penalise Crichton. So we are at the mercy of one guy under panic or pressure one minute but not the next. These referees are too involved, its almost like 3 teams on the field.

[chopstiks]

.... or in the case of St George Canberra the ref was not involved enough at the end. Earth to referee. Bunker ! Bueller ! Hello. Anyone.

Outrageous.

[stringaz]

This Annesley robot feeds us these weekly lines that unfortunately the wrong decision was made in the heat of the moment, really sorry about that, and all these other empty platitudes.

For me, the solution is very simple... get rid of this obsession with speeding up the game and also telling us how much pressure the referees are under and finally do something about it once and for all ffs.
Try giving the bunker the ultimate power over 80- minutes, such as the ability to reverse bad calls since they aren't in this high pressure cooker that Annesley keeps hiding behind. Now I know the bunker is only as good as the muppet in there, that could do with an overhaul as well. I just cannot accept that hasty Verrills panic penalty ... when they took several minutes top penalise Crichton. So we are at the mercy of one guy under panic or pressure one minute but not the next. These referees are too involved, its almost like 3 teams on the field.

They don't need to do much at all. I remember the first 20 minutes of the first origin this year, Ashley Klein did a really good job in the middle. Penalized most of what should have been (except a Ben Hunt hand on the ball in the ruck) and left the game alone. Then the blues went 4 nil up and the demeanour changed.

This glorification of Penrith is manipulation of money and power of the code in West Sydney. The league dosen't need much changed as far as rules go, just strict policing of the ruck to remove the Storm's wrestling tatics, (or holding up of the attacker) a blight on the game for the past 15 years.

Penrith are a bit of a cut price Storm in the same manner.

These guys know how to ref and ref well, plus the bunker to check for blades of grass and all that.

They orchestrate outcomes all with the help of their ambiguous 6 again rule, that sometimes just dosen't get applied to all teams. (Or heavily applied against some teams)

It happens in all games to some degree.

Can't see it changing anytime soon as VLandys just likes to double down on his agenda when pushed on it. Need to remove the current NRL hierachy if there's going to be change. Possibly certain referees as well.

I'd like to think that the Roosters and Politis are above board with all their dealings. Salary cap etc as I don't want an unfair advantage in the NRL other than an owner who is good at business (money for the club) a great coach (has a team firing) and perhaps a social demographic in lovely East Sydney to attract players rather than a freezing Canberra for example.

[milanja]

https://www.nrl.com/news/2022/07/04/...ng---round-16/

for anyone interested, roosters questions go from about the 16min mark to the 32min.

it’s interesting seeing the different angles and audio they have.

can’t argue with the Angus call at all, just a dumb play from a very highly paid player.

[Tennessee Tornado]

https://www.nrl.com/news/2022/07/04/...ng---round-16/

for anyone interested, roosters questions go from about the 16min mark to the 32min.

it’s interesting seeing the different angles and audio they have.

can’t argue with the Angus call at all, just a dumb play from a very highly paid player.

The issue with the Crichton call was not the FACT he was sin-binned, but the MANNER in which he was binned.

They allowed a 4-play advantage before they pulled it up.

If that's allowed, why not do it for every incident that deserved a sin-bin?

[Headless Chook]

The issue with the Crichton call was not the FACT he was sin-binned, but the MANNER in which he was binned.

They allowed a 4-play advantage before they pulled it up.

If that's allowed, why not do it for every incident that deserved a sin-bin?

Spot on. As Robbo said in the press conference, it's not rugby. If you're going to bin him, call time off and do it. Don't give them another 3 cracks at scoring a try and then decide to penalise him and sin bin him

[Headless Chook]

You need to bear in mind Sutton refs the top games. I read somewhere that 4 of our 10 losses were against Panthers, 2 against Storm, Souths, Eels, etc.

Having said that. I recall another game vs Panthers where JWH was sin binned. Then in the last few minutes of the game the Panthers committed a blatant professional foul and Sutton refused to sin bin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8Pthcjq5ng

We were coming to get them too

[milanja]

Spot on. As Robbo said in the press conference, it's not rugby. If you're going to bin him, call time off and do it. Don't give them another 3 cracks at scoring a try and then decide to penalise him and sin bin him

If panthers had scored during the advantage that was given, then Angus wouldn’t have been sent off, I think up to a few tackles is ok for an advantage, or what is the point of playing advantage for only one tackle? Because that only advantages the infringing team anyway.

[zac]

would like to know what they said about the off side non decisions/decisions in their communication with the club