“Roosters push refs to limit”

[Johnny73]

Who gives a shit what the NRL does or says regarding this? It'll be some handwaving bullshit and the same thing will happen again.

[King Salvo]

Spock was a stand up guy. You are a disillusioned mummy's boy. Don't compare the two.

Ho Hum Kindy Insults- Is Home Learning getting to you- No hundred and thousand sandwich or glass of milk for play lunch or afternoon nap perhaps?.

Spock was a Character in a TV series - He doesn't exist in reality - never mind maybe your imaginary friends can explain it to you better as i can't imagine you having real ones.

[Maxy Walker]

In recent years we haven't had an influential captain when it comes to the refs. Freddy wasn't bad, but neither Friend or Cordner seemed to be able to string a sentence together much less make a calm case in the heat of the battle.

Teddy doesn't seem that great at it either.

Keary always seems too emotional.

Verrils might have it in him...

Who knows?

Yeah and before that we had Braith. You might be onto something there.

[Maxy Walker]

If it’s unconscious bias at play it’s a bit hard to do much about it. Annesly can’t really tell his guys to go out and stop being unconsciously biased.

Best to just try to ignore it and enjoy the footy if you ask me. It’s unlikely to change. At least we usually seem to get a fair shake in the finals.

[King Salvo]

Yeah and before that we had Braith. You might be onto something there.

Future Candidates - N Butcher/ J Manu / V Radley - N Butcher was Co-Captain of the Premiership winning NYC side in 2016.

[TheLoneRooster]

That could be true because of our success which of course isn't fair but that doesn't change the fact that we must change our approach and stop giving the ref so many opportunities to penalize us . What we are doing now isn't working .We need a different plan

Let me try again. The large disparity in the penalty differential count has TWO factors: the penalties the Roosters concede (which you've mentioned in your post) AND the penalties the Roosters receive (which you haven't mentioned in your post). Over two decades now, the Roosters have consistently RECEIVED far fewer penalties than the 15 other teams.

[Maxy Walker]

Future Candidates - N Butcher/ J Manu / V Radley - N Butcher was Co-Captain of the Premiership winning NYC side in 2016.

Probably not Victor if we want to get onside with the refs. Butcher seems like a level headed bloke.

[roostermcgregor]

My prediction for the Broncos game is that Ashley Klown (who hates us) with give a leg up to the Broncos at every opportunity.
The Bias will continue at full force.
The only way we will beat the Broncos is if we are smacking their ass completely on the footy field.
Reasons for this:
Roosters fans are a minority - who cares about them anyway?
They come from an affluent geographical area, and have recently won 2 premierships.
Rugby League is a working class game- better if Penrith, Parra, Souths or Newcastle win - because they represent the battlers
Our coach is too intelligent for his own good - opposition fans perceive him as too smart, too smug - for him to say the right thing all the time , shows his superior intellect.
If you are a battler fan , (or even an NRL administrator) you cannot "trust" someone smarter than you - the logic might just show you up.
You can identify with someone that mumbles ( Souths Coach) or kicks chairs (Storm coach), but how do you counter someone who is smarter than you?
Better to give feeble excuses every week , for all the Bias.
Just like Annersley did, and pretend (the bias) isn't there, and doesn't happen

Its a case of the tall poppy syndrome - and by far - we are the tallest poppies.

[zac]

If it’s unconscious bias at play it’s a bit hard to do much about it. Annesly can’t really tell his guys to go out and stop being unconsciously biased.

Best to just try to ignore it and enjoy the footy if you ask me. It’s unlikely to change. At least we usually seem to get a fair shake in the finals.

that's pretty much robbo's position and that's fair enough but i think there are things the refs can do better. cops in the states do courses which encourage them to do the job with less prejudice. our extraordinary record in penalty counts suggests something's going on

[ism22]

that's pretty much robbo's position and that's fair enough but i think there are things the refs can do better. cops in the states do courses which encourage them to do the job with less prejudice. our extraordinary record in penalty counts suggests something's going on

I've powered through some unconscious bias in my mixed netball and have gotta say that having a whinge (or simply showing the refs the rules and saying 'you are wrong... s/he did bad, not me' doesn't help you one bit.

All I did was listed, adapt and groom the new refs to 'like' me rather than giving them lip. If anything, they're now a little too generous towards me because they know I listen, don't complain and am trying my best to play within the rules.

[Spirit of 66]

I've powered through some unconscious bias in my mixed netball and have gotta say that having a whinge (or simply showing the refs the rules and saying 'you are wrong... s/he did bad, not me' doesn't help you one bit.

All I did was listed, adapt and groom the new refs to 'like' me rather than giving them lip. If anything, they're now a little too generous towards me because they know I listen, don't complain and am trying my best to play within the rules.

Imagine if that kind of thing happened in the court system. "Yeah, I robbed the bank, but I was very respectful to the judge so he let me off. "

[Vasco]

Yeah and before that we had Braith. You might be onto something there.

Haven't had a decent communicator as captain since Hugh McGahan!

[Spirit of 66]

Haven't had a decent communicator as captain since Hugh McGahan!

Penalty differentials for the Roosters during Hughy's years with us:

1985: -33
1986: -27
1987: -32
1988: -20
1989: -17
1990: -17

I'm not sure, but we might need to go back to Dally Messenger's time to find a period where we got a fair go from the refs.

[Vasco]

Penalty differentials for the Roosters during Hughy's years with us:

1985: -33
1986: -27
1987: -32
1988: -20
1989: -17
1990: -17

I'm not sure, but we might need to go back to Dally Messenger's time to find a period where we got a fair go from the refs.

Hahaha. It's a bloody big improvement on the current stats.

[zac]

i think teddy's pretty good at dealing with the refs and will get better