Uncle Nick Goes BANG!

[rented tracksuit]

Nobody is being forced to have the vaccine.

It's YOUR choice.

However, in the very near future people who are not vaccinated against Covid will miss out on many activities they once enjoyed, including attendance at Easts' games.

Those of us who have chosen to get vaccinated, to help stop the spread, will be rewarded.

Freedom is a choice.

Well said. It’s also earned and we all should be encouraged to do our bit for each other.

[rented tracksuit]

For the 8 millionth time, the primary purpose of the vaccination is to prevent serious illness. It is VERY good at doing that. It also does reduce transmissibility, just not as well as it stops serious illness.

The more people vaccinated the less strain on our hospital system... THIS IS THE POINT.

By refusing vaccination you're saying you don't give a flying **** about our health system or the rest of society.

Very true. This is showing people true colours and some o those colours are very unnactractive.

[Johnny Tobin]

Perhaps I will join Andrew Walker and others in seeing my last live Roosters game. This will have huge financial implications for me as a SFS member. I’m sure Uncle Nick can reimburse me.
I have my reasons not to have the jab and they will not to be published here. But I assure you, I’ve researched beyond what the media states.

Whilst a fan and supporter of Uncle Nick’s dedication, I cannot agree on his stance.
Vaccinated people can still spread the virus; as can the unvaccinated. FACT.

Whilst we all want our World’s to return to “normal”, I do not see Uncle Nick’s version of utopia, working. Unless he is posturing for a vaccine passport and police controlling us to be the new normal? Won’t apply to him though. Do as I say, hey Uncle Nick???

You spread it less, if at all.

https://www.health.gov.au/news/top-3...-vaccination-0

https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...about-enough1/

It reduces the chances of getting it. That automatically reduces the chances of passing it on. Studies are showing it reduces the chances of passing it on anyway. It reduces the chance of hospitalisation and death if you are unfortunate enough to get it.

Anyone moaning about getting jabbed is a selfish prick letting everyone else down. I have no problem if they refuse medical advancement when it’s personal, like refusing chemo. When it affects everyone else it’s unacceptable.

Get vaccinated. Do the right thing.

[Johnny Tobin]

I’m out of this thread. How anyone could have a problem with this stance by Nick boggles my mind.

[Batemans Bay Rooster]

We'll all prob get Covid some point over the next x years. Would you rather be vaccinated at the time you get it, or not vaccinated? If your answer is you'd rather be not vaccinated, I'd suggest you are being foolish, and you should rethink your position. Maybe being somewhat kind to you will get it through your dumbfark head.

[74 Rooster]

Fellow Chooksters, This is a BIG MISTAKE on our part to restrict our games to only the vaccinated.

The current vaccines provide about 50-60% efficacy in protection from infection against Delta. They are not fully protective. They were produced during the Alpha strain. And guess what ? , because so many people are taking these vaccines at the same time, there will undoubtedly be more variants. It's 101 Biology, it's natural selection .
If you are vaccinated and become infected, the virus will replicate at the same or higher levels than if you were unvaccinated and then become infected.
If you are vaccinated and then become infected, your risk of transmitting the virus to someone else is quite high
If you are vaccinated and then become infected, your risk of developing severe disease or dying is better than if you were not vaccinated and then become infected with Delta.
Vaccines should only be given to our highest risk people, that's it.
Natural immunity beats these current vaccines hands down; there should be no argument.
lastly, why would the vaccinated be afraid of the unvaccinated ? ; if you are vaccinated you should be afraid of the vaccinated as you are more likely to be a super-spreader of the virus.

The current vaccines have not been properly tested ! They were up and running within months ! , think about it logically. They have not been tested over the medium and long term; it's been less than 1 year. FFS.
how many of you know about ADE ? , ( ANTIBODY DEPENDENT ENHANCEMENT ) This response can kick in at approximately 6 months after your last dose; you don't know if anything will happen so far. Is it any wonder we are being asked to take booster shots every 6 months ?!

I am waiting for better vaccines/ medical solutions. According to Lancet (medical journal) there are at least 90 drugs in development for Covid. Something better will come along.

Do your own research, look at what international Dr's are saying.

Uncle Nick, this is a mistake. The medical advice that the authorities are peddling in this country is all wrong.

[Johnny Brass]

For the 8 millionth time, the primary purpose of the vaccination is to prevent serious illness. It is VERY good at doing that. It also does reduce transmissibility, just not as well as it stops serious illness.

The more people vaccinated the less strain on our hospital system... THIS IS THE POINT.

By refusing vaccination you're saying you don't give a flying **** about our health system or the rest of society.

The average stay in an ICU for a covid patient is a couple of weeks at least , the hospital's can't cope with a huge influx of people requiring treatment on ventilators. That's why we have witnessed the scenes overseas with doctors and nurses having to play eeny,meeny,mint,moe with poor buggers gasping for breath with oxygen tanks.
You're quite right the vaccine won't stop us getting the virus but hopefully it will help us overcome it if we catch it without knocking us off.
I know a family overseas where the grandson went out for a drink with his mates and brought it home, whilst he was fine it put most of his family in hospital and his grandmother died from it.
He is really struggling with the guilt of what happened and I wouldn't want to be in that position myself.

[The Axe]

would you sue him?

I think you know I would write to him and express my thoughts if it came to no value in my Membership.
Would I sue him? Do you think I could afford a comparable legal team?

[Johnny73]

I think you know I would write to him and express my thoughts if it came to no value in my Membership.
Would I sue him? Do you think I could afford a comparable legal team?

What are you feelings on Craig Kelly absconding to the Palmer Untied (as in shoelaces) Party?

[rented tracksuit]

On the other hand, surely the organization leaves itself open to litigation if it does not take this stance in providing a safe way for fans to attend games?

[mightyrooster]

I like you have got mine on my phone and proudly so

Good idea. I’ll have to do that too.

[Rocky Rhodes]

The average stay in an ICU for a covid patient is a couple of weeks at least , the hospital's can't cope with a huge influx of people requiring treatment on ventilators. That's why we have witnessed the scenes overseas with doctors and nurses having to play eeny,meeny,mint,moe with poor buggers gasping for breath with oxygen tanks.
You're quite right the vaccine won't stop us getting the virus but hopefully it will help us overcome it if we catch it without knocking us off.
I know a family overseas where the grandson went out for a drink with his mates and brought it home, whilst he was fine it put most of his family in hospital and his grandmother died from it.
He is really struggling with the guilt of what happened and I wouldn't want to be in that position myself.

Current numbers for NSW has only 95 peeps in ICU from covid.

There are over 220 public hospitals in NSW...

Do the math, u seriously think our hospitals are over run?

Amazing when u put fear into peeps their brains turn to mush...

Only 72 covid deaths this yr, actually from Oct 2020.

Meantime, 1, 195 deaths from car accidents in Aust in 2019....surely Nick gonna ban cars right???.

[ism22]

Fellow Chooksters, This is a BIG MISTAKE on our part to restrict our games to only the vaccinated.

The current vaccines provide about 50-60% efficacy in protection from infection against Delta. They are not fully protective. They were produced during the Alpha strain.

...

Do your own research, look at what international Dr's are saying.

1. I don't get your logic... the vaccine isn't 100% effective so we shouldn't bother at all. As already discussed, this is exactly why it makes sense to exclude the ~1% of Australians who actively choose not to get vaccinated from such events. There's no invincibility-mode against ANY virus. However, the chances of wiping it out are a damn sight better when people are vaccinated (i.e. EVERYBODY in the said space are vaccinated, like with all the other diseases we're ALREADY vaccinated against).

2. I've done my research and mainstream science makes a lot more sense than what fringe conspiracy theorists (mostly loons with no relevant qualifications) are saying. Trust me, the vocal minority that is anti-vaxxers have shared their opinions with me... as have the mainstream scientists who deliver the cold, hard truth.

3. TBH the alternative is not having crowds at footy... ever again. How about we just do that because a vocal minority won't shut the fark up and stop talking to the rest of us as if we're all nazis and shyte. It's obnoxious the way anti-vaxxers speak down to us and I'm sick of their cr@p TBH. Yeah Bill Gates planned this all... it's a conspiracy... vaccines are all about deep government trying to control our minds... getting a jab's the same as sending Jews to the gulag, or the Taliban terrorising the fark people in Kabul. How didn't I know all of this... why did I think that scientists who specialise in immunology from a fark load of countries (1/2 of which hate each other over everything else) developed vaccines to protect us rather than all scheming together so that the Illuminati can take control? Yep, so stupid of me...

[milanja]

I understand some of the concerns brought up by both sides, and everyone is entitled to their fears or opinions. But as long as those who have chosen to be unvaccinated, don’t have an issue if the vaccinated people get preferential treatment for hospital beds, healthcare,restaurants,travel,work and so on, instead of themselves or their loved ones, then they should have the right to not get the jab.

[BUDDY]

Fellow Chooksters, This is a BIG MISTAKE on our part to restrict our games to only the vaccinated.

The current vaccines provide about 50-60% efficacy in protection from infection against Delta. They are not fully protective. They were produced during the Alpha strain. And guess what ? , because so many people are taking these vaccines at the same time, there will undoubtedly be more variants. It's 101 Biology, it's natural selection .
If you are vaccinated and become infected, the virus will replicate at the same or higher levels than if you were unvaccinated and then become infected.
If you are vaccinated and then become infected, your risk of transmitting the virus to someone else is quite high
If you are vaccinated and then become infected, your risk of developing severe disease or dying is better than if you were not vaccinated and then become infected with Delta.
Vaccines should only be given to our highest risk people, that's it.
Natural immunity beats these current vaccines hands down; there should be no argument.
lastly, why would the vaccinated be afraid of the unvaccinated ? ; if you are vaccinated you should be afraid of the vaccinated as you are more likely to be a super-spreader of the virus.

The current vaccines have not been properly tested ! They were up and running within months ! , think about it logically. They have not been tested over the medium and long term; it's been less than 1 year. FFS.
how many of you know about ADE ? , ( ANTIBODY DEPENDENT ENHANCEMENT ) This response can kick in at approximately 6 months after your last dose; you don't know if anything will happen so far. Is it any wonder we are being asked to take booster shots every 6 months ?!

I am waiting for better vaccines/ medical solutions. According to Lancet (medical journal) there are at least 90 drugs in development for Covid. Something better will come along.

Do your own research, look at what international Dr's are saying.

Uncle Nick, this is a mistake. The medical advice that the authorities are peddling in this country is all wrong.

Is that you Bogut?