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Originally posted by Waerea-Beast! View Post
The Israeli raw data is misleading: https://t.co/yb0pfC40UM?amp=1
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Originally posted by zac View Post
it's good to always wear the seat belt when you're driving a car. it's only recently that cab drivers were forced to wear one but i always wore one even before they forced us to.
sure, once you've had the jab you can't undo having it but is that a problem? there are medical experts who say it isn't - are you qualified to disagree with them? even if you're nervous about having it - and that's okay - not having is a (bigger) riskFVCK CANCER
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Originally posted by Roostermania View Post
Just to add to that the following is what the TGA has listed on their website regarding stats on adverse reactions and deaths as of 15th Aug;
- 460 deaths within 28 days of vax (up from 447)
- 8 new cases of blood clotting for the week, 112 total
- 59,597 adverse reactions (up from 48,000)
- 82 reports of Guillane Barre syndrome
- 188 reports of myocarditis/pericarditis (up from 144)
So the vaxx is neither safe not effective!
Personally i don't care whether someone is vaccinated or not. No point in banning someone from a sporting event because they are unvaccinated when you could be standing next to that person at McDonalds after or before the game. I prefer the UK model of open up and lets get on with it without restrictions because its too hard to police....and as we can see it creates division!
If you don't want the vaccine then ok-good for you. Just please don't go on & distort facts to justify your decision...... because you don't need to justify yourself-its your personal choice
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Originally posted by Roostermania View Post
Fair enough I'm all about freedom of choice and have no problems with people taking or not taking the inoculation. It's about making an informed decision particularly when what you are putting in your body is irreversible!!!FVCK CANCER
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Originally posted by Roostermania View Post
Just to add to that the following is what the TGA has listed on their website regarding stats on adverse reactions and deaths as of 15th Aug;
- 460 deaths within 28 days of vax (up from 447)
- 8 new cases of blood clotting for the week, 112 total
- 59,597 adverse reactions (up from 48,000)
- 82 reports of Guillane Barre syndrome
- 188 reports of myocarditis/pericarditis (up from 144)
So the vaxx is neither safe not effective!
The long term effects of these jabs could be much worse.
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Originally posted by milanja View Post
Never said he won’t let people in(he may have no choice in the matter either) he is losing all his business at the moment without being able to open, just said he may have a preference to the ones he does let in with restricted numbers, and that nobody should have a cry if they get turned away because of it.
FVCK CANCER
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Originally posted by The Axe View Post
For those interested the NHS has the yellow card for any adverse reactions from skin infections to death and everything in between. easy to find. It is commonly accepted only 1-5% of all cases reported on yellow card. good to research.
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Originally posted by Waerea-Beast! View Post
Do you want to misrepresent what he actually said any further?
https://twitter.com/AlbertBourla/sta...498818052?s=20
If u don't get it, not my problem.
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[QUOTE=Rooster1908;n899694]Originally posted by Tommy Smith View Post
Why do you think that because the majority are towing the line that they are doing it blindly .
Speaking for myself and many others i know I , we have done our research and believe vaccination is the correct path . Just as you believe its not .
I am also wary of an endless booster program. We are soon going to have to "learn to with it" as the narrative now says.
Meaning, we'll get the vaccine then probably at some point get Delta or some other highly infectious variant.
At this point don't we just put the boosters away for daily life, and maybe say it's for overseas travel only?
I also believe that as soon as we reach 80% vaccination levels, then the vaccinated should be able to travel overseas and return without quarantining.
Surely we can't keep quarantining forever. Who can afford to spend two weeks of their Annual Leave at home? Or who wants to do that for the rest of their lives?
I personally would like to see a much clearer path to returning to life as normal pre Covid. We obsess over it every moment of every day.
Get the vaccine. 80% and above. Then move on and get back to normal life. At some point it becomes an existential, philosophical dilemma.
"To be ruled by Covid forever, or not to be."
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Originally posted by Random Rooster View Post
Lucky for you that you have a choice and don't have to take it.
Personally i don't care whether someone is vaccinated or not. No point in banning someone from a sporting event because they are unvaccinated when you could be standing next to that person at McDonalds after or before the game. I prefer the UK model of open up and lets get on with it without restrictions because its too hard to police....and as we can see it creates division!
If you don't want the vaccine then ok-good for you. Just please don't go on & distort facts to justify your decision...... because you don't need to justify yourself-its your personal choiceFVCK CANCER
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Originally posted by rented tracksuit View Post
I’m sure you had vaccinations when you were young that were irreversible. Must be hard to live with that fact every day.
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Originally posted by Roostermania View Post
I guess we will agree to disagree on the matter. We will eventually know who is right in about 2-3 years time once you are getting your 20th booster shot. The unfortunate truth is it will be lose lose on both sides vax and unvaccinated will be hit by super muted viruses that will come from the inappropriate use of these public health interventions. Right now even with the Delta variant the survival rates are 99% with mild symptoms. This will not be the case moving forward.Last edited by Waerea-Beast!; 08-23-2021, 10:35 PM.
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Originally posted by Andrew Walker View Post
How interesting It appears to be saying that those in the higher age bracket are the ones double vaxxed with problems Makes perfect sense to me.
Where it gets interesting is that this is pretty much no different to the overall covid stats without vaccination. In that the elderly are more susceptible. This though has been considered pretty much irrelevant. But it is now relevant when it comes to figures with the vaccine. In short nothing has really changed.
According to the data, someone in their:
90's is 13x more likely to get severely ill if unvaccinated.
80's is 5x more likely to get severely ill if unvaccinated.
60's or 70's is 10x more likely to get severely ill if unvaccinated.
50's is 13x more likely to get severely ill if unvaccinated.
40's is 16x more likely to get severely ill if unvaccinated.
30's is 31x more likely to get severely ill if unvaccinated.
People 29 or under are not being hospitalised when vaccinated.
But yep, nothing has really changed...
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