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[Teddy]

During Bellamy's reign, he has taken them to 9 GF's and won 3 legitimately.
Even if you add the two stripped ones, that's 5/9. Apart from this year, I felt we really spooked them and they seemed to panic whenever they played us.

Yeah we had Melbourne’s measure in the big games we had that aura over them that they have had over teams for a long time (beaten before the kickoff) I really think Parra had them spooked this year also beat them in two tough encounters.

[Noosa Rooster]

PLUS, they equalled our 19 wins but they didn't even get to the big show.....surely our 1975 Roosters reign supreme as the greatest team ever!

Sure a very good team but if you take the RWB glasses off for a minute you have to give credit the the St George teams between 1956 and 1966. 11 in a row is an unbelievable achievement and in1959 they were undefeated the whole season. And Parramatta in the early 80's for that matter.

Different times, different game but you play to the rules and conditions of the time. Just as the successful teams of the last few years have done.

Still, with all the rule changes and apparent agendas of the administrators, our B2B effort of 2018/19 remains out of reach to others for the moment and should be acknowledged.

The difference now is that the successful clubs do not accept mediocrity and make the necessary adjustments to change with the times. (and rules). (and referees).

[SamKerrSimp]

Also let's not forget that when we went back to back in 2018/19 we got through Melbourne in both years: 2018 grand final and the 2019 preliminary final.

Robbo gets fairly praised by the media and "experts" but I feel like rugby league fans genuinely undervalue his ability as a coach and going back to back when Bellamy never could even with an illegal team and also going back to back having to beat Bellamy in both years is something that doesn't get mentioned enough.

[SamKerrSimp]

Sure a very good team but if you take the RWB glasses off for a minute you have to give credit the the St George teams between 1956 and 1966. 11 in a row is an unbelievable achievement and in1959 they were undefeated the whole season. And Parramatta in the early 80's for that matter.

Different times, different game but you play to the rules and conditions of the time. Just as the successful teams of the last few years have done.

Still, with all the rule changes and apparent agendas of the administrators, our B2B effort of 2018/19 remains out of reach to others for the moment and should be acknowledged.

The difference now is that the successful clubs do not accept mediocrity and make the necessary adjustments to change with the times. (and rules). (and referees).

The 1975 team are historically great but there's an argument to be made that it's not even the greatest Roosters team of all time because in addition to the 18/19 team there was the legendary team of the mid 1930's who went about 35 games without losing winning 3 premierships in a row.

Maybe for a single season 1975 is the best though.

[ccfc bondi]

Not to forget, we also won the Amco Cup in 1975 so that would add another bunch of wins to the 19 on the trot and they had to do it midweek as well.

True!

[ccfc bondi]

Sure a very good team but if you take the RWB glasses off for a minute you have to give credit the the St George teams between 1956 and 1966. 11 in a row is an unbelievable achievement and in1959 they were undefeated the whole season. And Parramatta in the early 80's for that matter.

Different times, different game but you play to the rules and conditions of the time. Just as the successful teams of the last few years have done.

Still, with all the rule changes and apparent agendas of the administrators, our B2B effort of 2018/19 remains out of reach to others for the moment and should be acknowledged.

The difference now is that the successful clubs do not accept mediocrity and make the necessary adjustments to change with the times. (and rules). (and referees).

A lot of that is true. I didn't see the St George team you mention, and they certainly were almost impossible to beat, but people who've spoken to me who did see them say they were boring. It was an unlimited tackle rule and their big forwards just tucked the ball under their arm and ran it up every time and no-one could get the ball off them. They are the reason limited tackles were brought in. RWB glasses or not, going by that, I'd still say the original entertainers were better. It's a shame all the games weren't on TV back then because they were just the most amazing team to watch. There was still a Saturday match on ABC (I think) and a Sunday game on Channel 7, but as Rex Mossop was a die-hard Manly man and had an obvious dislike of Easts, they didn't make the TV games on Sunday a lot. There was this competition every week too, sponsored by Wills giving a prize for teams able to make a randomly selected number of tries. Even when it was up high, the Roosters hardly ever failed to make the target.

[ism22]

Re: giving credit to old teams...

I wasn't alive to watch teams play in the 60's (and you'd have to be at least 70 [more likely 80] to have done so). I don't think it's unreasonable to focus on the modern era and put the 50's/60's in the category of 'trivia' rather than lived experience. This isn't to disrespect/dismiss them, but it's comparing apples and oranges.

St George were undoubtedly the best between 1956 and 1966. These teams deserve to be celebrated for what they were. However, I think it's fair to say they'd be amateur-grade by today's standards (those lower grades have some tough buggers who'd be working blue-collar jobs...etc so I'm not exaggerating). Further, SOMETHING musta been different about the comp for a team to be able to win 11 years straight. Much has changed - I think B2B is the CURRENT standard, and our 2018-19 team is the only B2B team within the current game.

It's exactly like digging up Rod Laver (a towering 173cm tennis player from about that era). Yes those wooden racquets were tough and his record makes him an immortal (plus he's still alive so can't be from THAT long ago). But... Federer, Djokovic, Nadal...etc are next level athletes. There's a reason none have won 8 grand slam tournaments in a row, and it's unlikely we'll ever see that again. One word... professionalism. Sport these days is way more fine-tuned and the financial incentives make it significantly more competitive. Today's records are rightly viewed in isolation from what we saw in the 60's because it's harder than ever to chain together 2 competition victories.

[ROC181]

A couple of things...

If the Storm had won the comp, they would have only caught up to us in B2B comps but we were still the first team to achieve that like the 19 games in a row. When I weigh whats worse of the Storm equaling our feat or souffs get another comp, souffs winning the comp would be much worse. Hopefully the Riff will prevent all of that.

Secondly, gees the Storm crumbled after 2 players could not finish the game...Imagine if they had 10 missing for a good part of the end of the season. They'd probably be shaking hands with Tiger Town.

[The Corner Post]

A couple of things...

Secondly, gees the Storm crumbled after 2 players could not finish the game...Imagine if they had 10 missing for a good part of the end of the season. They'd probably be shaking hands with Tiger Town.

Agree, the old line that Bellamy turns average players into great players has just been turned on its head by Robbo! Try losing your big guns, then taking a team of rookies to the finals.

[ROC181]

Agree, the old line that Bellamy turns average players into great players has just been turned on its head by Robbo! Try losing your big guns, then taking a team of rookies to the finals.

Take away Munster, Hughes, the cheese, k Bromwich, Solomona as their Collins, J Bromwich as their SST, Finucane as their Radley for 8 or so games. JAC as their BMoz…Then Olam as their Manu and not to mention the the equivalent to our Suaalii and Smith and they don’t have much left.

That’s close to the talent we lost this year for long term or season ending injuries.

[Roostermania]

I'm so happy that Melbourne did not go B2B, the Roosters 2018/19 teams are still the best!!! Plus we keep the record.

[Mickie Lane]

Take away Munster, Hughes, the cheese, k Bromwich, Solomona as their Collins, J Bromwich as their SST, Finucane as their Radley for 8 or so games. JAC as their BMoz…Then Olam as their Manu and not to mention the the equivalent to our Suaalii and Smith and they don’t have much left.

That’s close to the talent we lost this year for long term or season ending injuries.

It was a mighty effort by the Chooks this year.

[ROC181]

It was a mighty effort by the Chooks this year.

Yes by everyone!!!

[The Corner Post]

Take away Munster, Hughes, the cheese, k Bromwich, Solomona as their Collins, J Bromwich as their SST, Finucane as their Radley for 8 or so games. JAC as their BMoz…Then Olam as their Manu and not to mention the the equivalent to our Suaalii and Smith and they don’t have much left.

That’s close to the talent we lost this year for long term or season ending injuries.

The Storm had an absolutely stacked team this year. They had Hynes, Grant and Nelson coming off the bench. Yet they still fell short.