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  • #16
    Yeah the old rugger signature - the diving pass to the Fly Half who puts the boot to it.
    As a kid I had a pal who lived at Coogee and we often stood for a while watching Randwick go around. Ken Catchpole doing the dive pass at every opportunity and then the big downtown kick returned with another kick. About then I realised how tedious Union was. I doubt that I've ever sat through a full game.
    A kid in the street was passing the footy the other day. I said "Roosters?". "Nah..Tahs", he replied. Go figure!

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Paddo Colt 61 View Post
      Yeah the old rugger signature - the diving pass to the Fly Half who puts the boot to it.
      As a kid I had a pal who lived at Coogee and we often stood for a while watching Randwick go around. Ken Catchpole doing the dive pass at every opportunity and then the big downtown kick returned with another kick. About then I realised how tedious Union was. I doubt that I've ever sat through a full game.
      A kid in the street was passing the footy the other day. I said "Roosters?". "Nah..Tahs", he replied. Go figure!
      At least he said thanks

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Paddo Colt 61 View Post
        Yeah the old rugger signature - the diving pass to the Fly Half who puts the boot to it.
        As a kid I had a pal who lived at Coogee and we often stood for a while watching Randwick go around. Ken Catchpole doing the dive pass at every opportunity and then the big downtown kick returned with another kick. About then I realised how tedious Union was. I doubt that I've ever sat through a full game.
        A kid in the street was passing the footy the other day. I said "Roosters?". "Nah..Tahs", he replied. Go figure!
        Once Frank Hyde was asked to call a union game as the usual guy was sick.

        A frustrated Frank was heard to moan on several occasions, "Oh he's kicked it AGAIN!"

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Headless Chook View Post

          I think you mean voluntary tackle. I would think most tackles are involuntary.
          yeh voluntary

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          • #20
            Originally posted by ism22 View Post
            I don't think we're using the term 'voluntary tackle' correctly. A surrender tackle is not a voluntary tackle.

            Voluntary tackle...
            > A player in possession shall not deliberately and unnecessarily allow himself to be tackled by voluntarily falling to the ground when not held by an opponent. If a player drops on a loose ball he shall not remain on the ground waiting to be tackled if he has time to regain his feet and continue play.

            https://www.nrl.com/siteassets/opera...-game-2020.pdf

            I think this is distinct from a surrender tackle, which is:

            > ...Occurs when the player in possession surrenders his run in or at the line. Defender[s] are permitted to work the player on the ground, move to a bear hug position, lay on...

            The drafting is shyte as it includes the word 'surrender'. However, I think it's safe to say that a surrender tackle isn't about the actual tackle (except when it comes to what the defenders can do), it's about the fact you haven't tried to avoid the tackle. It's not a voluntary tackle though, because a defender's grabbed you and tackled you.

            ---

            FWIW I think the Cam Murray 'succumb and then offload' is a penalty because he's already tackled.

            > A player in possession is tackled...
            > ...when, being held by an opponent, the tackled player makes it evident that he has succumbed to the tackle and wishes to be released in order to play-the-ball.

            TBH this p!sses me off more than what our OP's mentioned. Souffs always get away with 'succumbing' (i.e. it is evident that they've stopped moving) and then offloading if the ref hasn't called 'heeeeld'. FWIW the rules note that the ref can call 'held' or 'play on' when there's a dispute about whether somebody's been tackled.

            The heeeeld call p!sses me off but it makes me wonder whether Teddy asks for it to be called all the time in order to keep players honest when it comes to succumbing? (i.e. Ball's live until the ref calls 'held'). Be interesting to know why some refs seem to love their voice more than others in that respect.
            Voluntary tackle...
            > A player in possession shall not deliberately and unnecessarily allow himself to be tackled by voluntarily falling to the ground when not held by an opponent. If a player drops on a loose ball he shall not remain on the ground waiting to be tackled if he has time to regain his feet and continue play.

            Players do exactly that when they run behind their own player - fall to the ground to avoid being penalised for obstruction - also with kicks caught close to the try line by defending teams the players falls to the ground to avoid being held up and pushed back in goal

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            • #21
              Originally posted by King Salvo View Post

              Voluntary tackle...
              > A player in possession shall not deliberately and unnecessarily allow himself to be tackled by voluntarily falling to the ground when not held by an opponent. If a player drops on a loose ball he shall not remain on the ground waiting to be tackled if he has time to regain his feet and continue play.

              Players do exactly that when they run behind their own player - fall to the ground to avoid being penalised for obstruction - also with kicks caught close to the try line by defending teams the players falls to the ground to avoid being held up and pushed back in goal
              Can you explain to me what a escort is?

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Bondicigar View Post

                Can you explain to me what a escort is?
                Thirteen is your man for that question.

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                • #23
                  [QUOTE=player 1;
                  Once Frank Hyde was asked to call a union game as the usual guy was sick.
                  A frustrated Frank was heard to moan on several occasions, "Oh he's kicked it AGAIN!"

                  I came to see the game as an enduring Class ridden relic of an earlier Australia. In the 50s & 60s Union and the Regatta symbolised the pre eminence of the Anglophile lot who ran the joint and still do. The game also attracts a lot of wannabes like Howard in his Wallabies tracky and Scomo who pretends to be a League fan. Generally, in the bush and the city it symbolises superiority to the hoi polloi and, as a corollary, the right to enjoy privileges denied to others.
                  On the subject of Scomo, we are being prepared for a Khaki election, a plebiscite on the nuclear subs and the US "alliance" straight out of the Howard/Menzies playbook. Look at Turnbull's speech at the Press Club. The subs thing is bullshit, we now have no subs policy just an agreement to confer further in the future. Oz "journalists" are lickspitle and the mugs buy it.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Bondicigar View Post

                    Can you explain to me what a escort is?

                    Escort is when a team mate runs interference on the kick chasers. He is protecting (escorting) his player who attempts to catch the ball. Think WWII convoys & Uboats.

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