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Originally posted by Thirteen View PostI like Sitili. He’s a real weapon in attack. Needs to get fitter to play 80 though cause he drops off too many tackles. Should probably be benched until his fitness improves.
The big guys belt him around too much in the first 20.
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Originally posted by Mickie Lane View Post
Yeah he did but not hard enough. Blokes like Cords, Maubs, Guerra & N Butcher were ahead of him.
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Originally posted by Random Rooster View Post
Hes 6'4 & 101kgs.....how big are these "big guys" who belt him around??
The days of 120 kg plus props are numbered - 105 to 115 kgs seems to be the ideal weight for props as they need to be more mobile , agile with greater endurance to play longer minutes- JWH is 108 Kg's / SST is 108 Kg's and Collins is 106 Kg's for an example - Backrowers - 95 to 105 would possibly be the ideal weight range
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Originally posted by King Salvo View Post
The Big Guys are not as big since the rule changes which has resulted in a faster game and ball in play longer- they have had to shed weight - Fisher-Harris is 6ft 2 and 105 kgs and Papalii (Raiders) 6ft and 110 kgs - For an example Papalii was 120 kgs at the start of the 2020 season.
The days of 120 kg plus props are numbered - 105 to 115 kgs seems to be the ideal weight for props as they need to be more mobile , agile with greater endurance to play longer minutes- JWH is 108 Kg's / SST is 108 Kg's and Collins is 106 Kg's for an example - Backrowers - 95 to 105 would possibly be the ideal weight range
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Originally posted by Headless Chook View Post
NAS goes alright for the Storm
The 25-year-old’s NRL future is under a cloud after standing firm on refusing the COVID-19 vaccine, which is required to train and play under Victorian government health orders.
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Originally posted by King Salvo View Post
Only plays 40 or so minutes a game though - to play longer minutes would need to shed some kg's for sure and certain - 6ft 7 and 130 kg's - His future is up in the air in any case as he is not double vaccinated -currently training by himself
The 25-year-old’s NRL future is under a cloud after standing firm on refusing the COVID-19 vaccine, which is required to train and play under Victorian government health orders.Last edited by milanja; 01-06-2022, 05:10 PM.
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Originally posted by milanja View Post
plenty of good ones in the 115kg plus range I think, haas, fonua Blake, junior paulo, taumalolo, Burgess, Bromwich without looking too much into the figures.
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Originally posted by Mickie Lane View Post
I agree but I also agree with what King Salvo is trying to get across. The game needs to go the way KS is talking, its got to be more like when players grew up & threw the ball around, like he says the 3 or 4 hit-ups then a kick is boring, I know its all about not making a mistake but throwing the ball around is where things happen. If teams like the Chooks dont play into the oppositions defensive line by allowing 1 out battering rams to be hammered by 3 defenders & play a more expansive style of a game it will have the opposition in 2 minds, all teams know the opposing team is going to try & charge through their defensive middle so they train for that & are ready for that so to come up with something different will benefit a fit strong team like the Chooks. On the first & second forwards should be off loading & then on the 3rd & 4th feed it out to your backs & if nothing has happened in those 4 tackles then on the 5th kick down field & then hammer the opposition who will play a 1 out barge game.
it all comes down to how they are coached, you can get a player like papalii to drop 15kgs, but he was offloading balls at will when he was 120kg, if the games changes, the players will naturally adapt and potentially play at a lighter weight.
Maybe a game with a minimum two passes before you can get tackled, or the opposition get the ball
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Egan Butcher is a middle forward, like his brother.
Both only play on the edges when we have a thousand injuries, which seems to be every game!
Someone previously mentioned Matterson leaving because he wasn't aggressive enough. I thought he went to the Tigers because the Roosters couldn't get near what they were offering.
If he is prepared to come back for less then I'd snap him up for sure.Born and bred in the eastern suburbs.
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Originally posted by Vasco View PostEgan Butcher is a middle forward, like his brother.
Both only play on the edges when we have a thousand injuries, which seems to be every game!
Someone previously mentioned Matterson leaving because he wasn't aggressive enough. I thought he went to the Tigers because the Roosters couldn't get near what they were offering.
If he is prepared to come back for less then I'd snap him up for sure.
Matto has shown he’s only interested in the highest bidder. Although I’d love to add an experienced forward to our side, I think we’ve been there and done that.
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