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Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe
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Originally posted by Headless Chook View Post
How old are you Mickie? I'm a 67 drop and saw Artie at the back end of his career. He could mix it up when he wanted too and would certainly have gone toe to toe with JWH if required. The surprising thing with Artie was actually his speed off the mark. Watch some of the highlights from 75 and you will see times where he left defenders grasping off a standing start. I think back to the first ever SOO game and he went after the NSW pack physically that night. He could intimidate if he needed to
Dont get me wrong I fully rate Artie & as I said he had more skill than JWH & yes he could hurt opposition players legally & illegally when he was playing but JWH is a true WARRIOR & has been for over 10 years. His contact per game compared to Artie would be at least 3 times more, JWH is a dead set machine who plays the game on the edge, I love him & I love Artie too. They're both champions.
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Originally posted by The Brain View Post
No Artie is perfect for this six again shit...10m rule..he would have a field day with it... ..he was mobile and powerful and skillful...he didnt look like he was fit but he had natural stamina....Artie laid out a hell of a lot of blokes..god love him.
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I was running alongside Artie Beetson one day at pre season training More Park 72 before i went back to Moresby , we were pretty much back of the pack after a while he turned and said to me. you wont make first grade running back here with me young fella.I respectfully fired back maybe so but I reckon ill beat you around here . Good guy beetson looked after the young guys, Greg Bandiera was a good bloke too. That SFS dressing shed was pretty average, if you didn't get into the shower quick you had a cold one. Don't think the boys have to worry about that in the new joint.
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Originally posted by mattyh View Posti love jwh because he is a grub and a bully.
despite the protests of some on here he is a grub.
he is the kind of guy most oppossing players say " oh fark, were playing that carnt next" .
i do think some of the real nrl tough guys ie gall, s burgess , jwh , cords, jfh love the conflict and maybe getting hurt and returning in kind....
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Originally posted by kakaruk View PostI was running alongside Artie Beetson one day at pre season training More Park 72 before i went back to Moresby , we were pretty much back of the pack after a while he turned and said to me. you wont make first grade running back here with me young fella.I respectfully fired back maybe so but I reckon ill beat you around here . Good guy beetson looked after the young guys, Greg Bandiera was a good bloke too. That SFS dressing shed was pretty average, if you didn't get into the shower quick you had a cold one. Don't think the boys have to worry about that in the new joint.
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1. James Tedesco (c)
2. Daniel Tupou
3. Joseph Suaalii
4. Paul Momirovski
5. Joseph Manu
6. Luke Keary
7. Sam Walker
8. Jared Waerea-Hargreaves
9. Sam Verrills
10. Lindsay Collins
11. Angus Crichton
12. Sitili Tupouniua
13. Victor Radley
14. Connor Watson
15. Siosiua Taukeiaho
16. Nat Butcher
17. Egan Butcher
A great overall squad, and one that should realistically make the top four. The experience gained from the youngsters last season will be invaluable, as arguably 99% if not all the top 30 have experienced NRL football at some capacity.
The backline has plenty of strike and experience, it's just a matter of how it's structured. Teddy, Toops, Manu and Momirovski essentially have four of the five positions locked up, so it's up to Joseph Suaalii, Billy Smith, Adam Keighran and Kevin Naiqama to fight for the last spot.
Controversial, but I've thrown Manu on the wing - I feel like he was more involved and more dangerous there at the back end of the season when injuries forced reshuffles. The more times he got the ball in his hands the more opportunities he had to challenge the defence. I've got Suaalii edging out the others for the last spot, and playing inside the experienced Toops couldn't hurt at all. Momirovski takes the other centre spot.
Halves are fairly self-explanatory, but Luke Keary and Sam Walker are a dream combination. Drew Hutchison put in an awesome effort last season at five-eighth but logically you'd have to go with the experience of Keary and the excitement of Walker. With Watson in the side, I don't think the side could afford to have Walker on the bench.
JWH and Collins head the front row for mine. Jared was solid off the bench at the beginning of last season but he proved that he is the pack's cornerstone. Collins may need time to get back after the ACL but I'm confident he's the next-best prop in the side.
Back row of Crichton, Tupouniua and Radley is self-explanatory, although I think Sitili will have plenty of pressure from the Butcher bros and Naufahu Whyte, while Victor will have his own competition with the incoming Watson who proved to be dangerous at 13 while at Newcastle.
Speaking of which, Connor is the obvious choice as the bench utility, able to play anywhere on the field probably minus the wing, but with experience everywhere else he really fills in that utility role perfectly. Siua had his fair share of niggling injuries in 2021, and I think JWH and Collins just pip him, but he's has great impact whether starting or on the bench.
The Butcher brothers are my final bench members, contrasting styles but both very effective in the middle of the field. Nat brings the workload and Egan brings in the punch. A great combination to watch.
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Realistically this side should make the top four, and will certainly challenge for the Minor Premiership if injuries are kind. Up there with Melbourne and Penrith, the Roosters have every reason to claim Premiership no.16 in 2022.
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artie was probably the most skilful forward ever. he could do the rough stuff but he had the ball playing of the best half backs. it was a different game back then and very hard to compare players from different eras.
as great a career as jwh has had his season last year might have been his best. i reckon he was the reason why we didn't fold despite all the injuries. the guy was all heart.
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Originally posted by kakaruk View PostI was running alongside Artie Beetson one day at pre season training More Park 72 before i went back to Moresby , we were pretty much back of the pack after a while he turned and said to me. you wont make first grade running back here with me young fella.I respectfully fired back maybe so but I reckon ill beat you around here . Good guy beetson looked after the young guys, Greg Bandiera was a good bloke too. That SFS dressing shed was pretty average, if you didn't get into the shower quick you had a cold one. Don't think the boys have to worry about that in the new joint.Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe
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Originally posted by Spirit of 66 View PostI predict that the new rule change - penalising defensive teams in their opposition half rather than calling 6 again - will be used as a way of giving underperforming teams a leg up and to reduce the number of blow out scorelines.
I know Souffs won in 2014 on the back of piggy backs!
Born and bred in the eastern suburbs.
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Originally posted by Johnny Brass View Post
Great story kakaruk, I reckon Artie would have hated anything over 100 metres.Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe
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Round 1
1. James Tedesco (c)
2. Daniel Tupou
3. Momo
4. Manu
5. Kevin Naiqama
6. Hutchison
7. Keary
8. Jared Waerea-Hargreaves
9. Marschke
10. Lindsay Collins
11. Angus Crichton
12. Sitili Tupouniua
13. Victor Radley
14. Connor Watson
15. Siosiua Taukeiaho
16. Nat Butcher
17. Egan Butcher
For my 2 bobs worth....
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Originally posted by Kelby View PostRound 1
1. James Tedesco (c)
2. Daniel Tupou
3. Momo
4. Manu
5. Kevin Naiqama
6. Hutchison
7. Keary
8. Jared Waerea-Hargreaves
9. Marschke
10. Lindsay Collins
11. Angus Crichton
12. Sitili Tupouniua
13. Victor Radley
14. Connor Watson
15. Siosiua Taukeiaho
16. Nat Butcher
17. Egan Butcher
For my 2 bobs worth....
If B Smith is fully fit I would have him & Momo in the centres with Toups, Manu & Teddy making up the back 3.
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Originally posted by Mickie Lane View Post
Im pretty sure Sam Walker will be the starting 7 other than that I dont think you will be far off.
If B Smith is fully fit I would have him & Momo in the centres with Toups, Manu & Teddy making up the back 3.
I think Manu would consider a move to the wing as a demotion. He’s great there cause he gets more involved but moving from centre to wing is a bit like trading in the Porsche for a Mazda.
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