Some impressive stats from our leaders...

[ism22]

People are giving our leaders a hard time because we're not winning. Just thought I'd have a quick reflection, noting that our results coulda been a LOT worse without some of these efforts:
- Teddy's run for 300m two weeks in a row now, with 11 tackle breaks in the last game.
- Keary made 290 kick metres and ran for 105m
- Crichton made 41 tackles and 135m (80m of that being PCM... 2 offloads in there as well)
- Manu had a quiet game but made 24 tackles at centre with 3 being 1-on-1
- Collins ran 128m and made 30 tackles in ~40 minutes

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There's a lot more stats but IMO we're giving some of these guys a hard time. Yes it probably woulda been better if Manu took some of those runs instead of Teddy, but I reckon that contrary to popular opinion, our leaders are holding up the team right now.

Minimal tries are getting scored against us and most of them are our own stupid fault rather than that of exhaustion and/or poor defensive systems.

I reckon we're closer to everything clicking together than fans may think. Robbo says he's been here before (i.e. stuck trying to work-out how to improve our attack) and he seems confident rather than worried about it all. Hopefully our attack comes good over the next couple of weeks - I reckon it will soon and it'll be awesome seeing it all happen!

[Kelby]

Love your optimism..................

[mattyh]

hmmmm interesting , i think every one is trying . maybe some trying to much .

its just not gelling ...support play? getting split in d right down the middle ? passes going to ground from dh?

its not quite critical yet, buy we lose next week , that finger may get closer to the panic button

[OMR]

The down the middle back on the inside pass got Teddy through for 3 breaks, what upset me was the lack of support .

[Keith]

Yeah , we have good players , doing a lot of good work , it's just the silly errors that cost us ,
e.g vs Bulldogs.
Not finding touch
kick off out on the full
forward passes.
throwing an intercept.
goal kicking.
28/42 66% completion

We dont throw enough dummies or offloads.

[King Salvo]

The down the middle back on the inside pass got Teddy through for 3 breaks, what upset me was the lack of support .

That's a common thing as well

I look at other teams and the off the ball support players - they move up as one on both sides of the ruck and if any line break and or movement of the ball either side of the ruck they are there in support in numbers and each players knows their role and can execute it.

No anticipation and execution from the Roosters players and it seems like it's a shock or unexpected if someone makes a line break as most times they have zero support so the opportunity goes begging.

I don't know if it's the result of the over structured play that the support play is poor and or they haven't quite adapted to the new game.

It's a faster game with ball in play longer and ball movement and support play is paramount as teams move away from the over structured play of multiple hit ups /out the back with decoys and kick on the last to a more free flowing attacking game of playing what's in front of you.

[King Salvo]

Yeah , we have good players , doing a lot of good work , it's just the silly errors that cost us ,
e.g vs Bulldogs.
Not finding touch
kick off out on the full
forward passes.
throwing an intercept.
goal kicking.
28/42 66% completion

We dont throw enough dummies or offloads.

Robbo is not a fan of offloading and or a running dummy half including them kicking one has to say and he likes a certain type of half back and dummy half.

Things that trouble the Roosters include teams that off load/teams with a running dummy half and teams that move the ball side line to sideline and back through the middle.

Surprisingly in 2020 they were second for off loads - one could understand low set completions and high error counts if they were an offloading team that played an expansive attacking game - but they are neither of these so why are completions rates low and errors high ?

I know people will say they won comps when set completions were low and errors high - that was when the game was of a stop start nature and players got a break but now the game is faster / ball in player longer and fatigue becomes a bigger factor for teams having to do more defence.

Teams have enough defence to do in games without adding to that workload because of low set completions and errors.


Off loads - 2018 - 14th / 2019 - 13th / 2020 - 2nd /2021 - 11th - 2022 so far - 11th

Dummy Half runs - 2018 -15th/ 2019 -11th/ 2020 - 14th/ 2021 - 12th / 2022 so far - 8th

Set Completions - 2018 - 13th / 2019 - 14th / 2020 - 13th / 2021 - 16th / 2022 so far - 14th

Errors - 2018 - 1st / 2019 - 1st/ 2020 - 5th /2021 - 2nd / 2022 so far - 2nd

Missed Tackles - 2018 - 13th / 2019 - 9th / 2020 - 12th / 2021 - 4th / 2022 so far - 6th

[ChookMaster]

Compare our main kicker in general play distance in 290M to DCE’s 690M or Cleary’s 500M..

[TeddyGoat]

Compare our main kicker in general play distance in 290M to DCE’s 690M or Cleary’s 500M..

Yep and Burton's 666m

[OMR]

Compare our main kicker in general play distance in 290M to DCE’s 690M or Cleary’s 500M..

That’s a telling factor

[Monaco's Fan Club]

These are stats against the worst team in the comp right ?

[King Salvo]

These are stats against the worst team in the comp right ?

The kick metre stats are hard to judge as you don't know from what part of the field the kicks were from.

A player could have 5 kicks in a game from their own half for 240 kick metres - 5 kicks 240 metres- average 48 metres

Another player in the same game could have 5 kicks all in the opposition 20 for 50 kick metres - 5 kicks 50 metres- average 10 metres

If you didn't know where the kicks were from on the field you would think the second players kick metres are rather poor to say the least.

That said though neither Keary or Walker have long kicking games and why I suggested Tedesco might be able to contribute in this area.

Tedesco has a decent boot on him and in the old days a fullback had to be able to kick - Russell Fairfax and Marty Gurr were decent kickers/Graham Eadie/ Changa Langlands except for the 1975 Grand Final /Don Mosely /Greg Brentnall etc etc.

[ChookMaster]

The kick metre stats are hard to judge as you don't know from what part of the field the kicks were from.

A player could have 5 kicks in a game from their own half for 240 kick metres - 5 kicks 240 metres- average 48 metres

Another player in the same game could have 5 kicks all in the opposition 20 for 50 kick metres - 5 kicks 50 metres- average 10 metres

If you didn't know where the kicks were from on the field you would think the second players kick metres are rather poor to say the least.

That said though neither Keary of Walker have long kicking games and why I suggested Tedesco might be able to contribute in this area.

Tedesco has a decent boot on him and in the old days a fullback had to be able to kick - Russell Fairfax and Marty Gurr were decent kickers/Graham Eadie/ Changa Langlands except for the 1975 Grand Final /Don Mosely etc.

Oh stop it. So you want Tedesco to overplay his hand even more and get involved now with kicking duties???

Cmon now.

[mightyrooster]

People are giving our leaders a hard time because we're not winning. Just thought I'd have a quick reflection, noting that our results coulda been a LOT worse without some of these efforts:
- Teddy's run for 300m two weeks in a row now, with 11 tackle breaks in the last game.
- Keary made 290 kick metres and ran for 105m
- Crichton made 41 tackles and 135m (80m of that being PCM... 2 offloads in there as well)
- Manu had a quiet game but made 24 tackles at centre with 3 being 1-on-1
- Collins ran 128m and made 30 tackles in ~40 minutes

---

There's a lot more stats but IMO we're giving some of these guys a hard time. Yes it probably woulda been better if Manu took some of those runs instead of Teddy, but I reckon that contrary to popular opinion, our leaders are holding up the team right now.

Minimal tries are getting scored against us and most of them are our own stupid fault rather than that of exhaustion and/or poor defensive systems.

I reckon we're closer to everything clicking together than fans may think. Robbo says he's been here before (i.e. stuck trying to work-out how to improve our attack) and he seems confident rather than worried about it all. Hopefully our attack comes good over the next couple of weeks - I reckon it will soon and it'll be awesome seeing it all happen!

Great post. But remember Robbo has lost the dressing room…

[King Salvo]

Oh stop it. So you want Tedesco to overplay his hand even more and get involved now with kicking duties???

Cmon now.

Why not as he does line drops outs and kick offs for instance and has even been the goal kicker at times. - 6 and 7 don't have a mortgage on being the kicker mmm except at the Roosters perhaps.

Keary and Walker don't have long kicking games and Robbo doesn't like dummy halves kicking despite Hutch kicking a few times from Dummy half so Tedesco could be used - you utilise all your assets in a game.

They should also be using the old Johnny Peard bomb on the last tackle as well - near the posts as the full back defends in the line nowadays and out wide where they have pretty handy leapers in Toops , Manu and Suaalii

I remember a game last year forget who was playing though - the grubber in goal to get a repeat set - 3 times that team did this except on the 3rd repeat set (4th set of six) they dropped the ball on the second tackle.

All that waste of energy in bringing the ball back again to the same place and what for.

Try something different a Johnny Peard Bomb as I said above - a decent one would make it a contest for the ball and the kicking team has the advantage as their players are on the move compared to the defending teams players who are rather flat footed in jumping up for the ball.

The way out of this slump could well be doing different things as well and not the same things over and over again when they are not working.

The following quote comes to mind

“Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results"