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  • "Stop calling the once-mighty Roosters heavyweights - they are now featherweights"

    From The Roar

    Trent Robinson has been the coach of the Sydney Roosters since 2013, celebrating a decade at the helm of one of the most successful contemporary NRL teams. Across that period, the Chooks have won three premierships, appeared in a further three preliminary finals and two semi-finals, and were annexed from the finals on just one occasion in 2016. That disastrous campaign was something of an anomaly and with an average finish of between third and fourth on the ladder across a full decade, it is easy to see why the boys from Bondi have developed a reputation as a consistent NRL heavyweight.

    That record no doubt informed much of the Tricolours’ predicted chances heading into the current season, with many assuming that they would continue to be the force that has achieved so much in recent times. While the odd rogue commentator might have looked for potential improvers in the form of teams like the Dragons and Broncos (both in my top eight at the start of the season), the low-hanging fruit was to hitch one’s wagon with the historically successful Roosters and lock them in for another appearance in the finals.

    I did it, just like everybody else.

    Thankfully, there is more to rugby league that a simple emulation of the past and the current reality appears to be that the Roosters are gripping desperately to a perch from which they have stumbled somewhat, despite much of the rugby league media appearing to still believe in a team that looks to be a shadow of its former self. When the embattled Bulldogs scrapped and clawed their way to a 16-12 victory at Accor Stadium on Saturday evening, any doubts around the Roosters’ fall from heavyweight status had been confirmed. Frankly, the Dogs were far from impressive: gutsy, but limited. However, the Roosters were simply dysfunctional against a team that had lost six matches on the trot, were without their captain and had offered absolutely zero in attack across the first seven rounds of the competition.

    Most stunning was the Cooper Cronk-coached halves pairing of the Roosters being able to offer little to threaten a Canterbury defence that had allowed 102 points in the three weeks prior. Luke Keary and Sam Walker might well be touted and proven players at NRL level, yet against the Bulldogs they were far from instrumental in providing the polish to the end of Roosters’ attacking sets and at times looked nothing but ordinary. The performance continued a pattern that had been clearly evident in 2022. Wins over the Sea Eagles, Broncos and Warriors were nothing to write home about and losses to the Knights, Rabbitohs, Dragons and now Bulldogs created something of an embarrassing profile as the competition heads into its ninth week.

    The Titans, Eels, Panthers and Sharks await over the coming month and two wins across that period might be the best the Roosters can hope for, especially considering the form they are currently displaying and the growing reality that Robinson’s men appear well off the pace for the first time in six years. Yet all the while, much of the rugby league community continue to refer to the Tricolours as an NRL heavyweight, in spite of the fact that they may well be grappling to make the top eight come September. It appears to be such a shock to the collective consciousness that it may take some time before the reality sets in and seemingly opposition players also remain brainwashed into believing an historical fact that is far from a reality in 2022.

    Jai Arrow appeared on the rather awkwardly titled Fox League program Benji on Monday night, applauding the efforts of Canterbury, up against what he referred to as one of the competition heavyweights, the Sydney Roosters. Methinks Arrow might have merely been using clichéd language and ideas drummed into his psyche, all based on the Roosters’ efforts prior to 2022 and not the inept form currently being displayed. Like many in a media landscape that continues to present the Roosters as an ever-present threat based on years gone by, poor Jai has also fallen victim to the historically favourable journalistic treatment afforded to the Chooks.

    At least six NRL teams appear to be streets ahead of them at this stage of the season and losses to the seriously bereft Bulldogs and Knights add weight to the view that the Roosters will be making up the numbers this season. Unfortunately, it may take a few more weeks before some begin to call a spade a spade and admit that the Roosters are not a serious threat to the heavy hitters in 2022.

    Perhaps that just hurts a little too much for some to admit.

    For others, it will be music to their ears.



  • #2
    Too much salt, send it back.

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    • #3
      If you piece together the posts on this site for the last 2 weeks you get this article

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      • #4
        Partially accurate. We are not heavyweights.

        What was wrong with the win over the eagles? We touched them up.

        The win over the broncos showed some guts and with Reynolds they will beat plenty of sides.

        After last night I hope he isn't suggesting the wabbits are one of the teams "streets ahead" of us. Ahem, we beat the broncos, and they THRASHED Souffs (and without 2 of their best players).

        And who are these 6 sides, apart from the obvious 2, who are "streets ahead" of us? The eels? Another side who got belted by the cowboys, whom we beat.

        I hope these guys don't get paid to write stuff they think up after drinking a six pack....

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        • #5
          Originally posted by player 1 View Post
          I hope these guys don't get paid to write stuff they think up after drinking a six pack....
          I wrote a couple of articles and didn't get paid a cent. A labour of love for me.

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          • #6
            The guy who wrote this rubbish, Stuart Thomas, has no idea about NRL and this is simply an opinion piece with no facts, statistics or justification. You only have to look at some of his other articles for evidence. It would be refreshing if journalists, or as this guy is referred to on Roar as an 'expert', could actually wrote in depth articles (someone like Alan Katzmann springs to mind)

            Sure, the chooks haven't met expectations, both internal and external, but a few off games doesn't mean the team is to be thrown to the scrap. Players are injured, returning from injury and forming new combinations. While I am not suggesting this squad or the end result is comparable to 2018, we had a similar disappointing start to the season that we were eventually able to turn around and I have no doubt we will be playing better football in the near future.

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            • #7
              fair article given the crap we have dished up this year .

              no butthurt here.

              up to us to improve .

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              • #8
                Originally posted by player 1 View Post
                Partially accurate. We are not heavyweights.

                What was wrong with the win over the eagles? We touched them up.

                The win over the broncos showed some guts and with Reynolds they will beat plenty of sides.

                After last night I hope he isn't suggesting the wabbits are one of the teams "streets ahead" of us. Ahem, we beat the broncos, and they THRASHED Souffs (and without 2 of their best players).

                And who are these 6 sides, apart from the obvious 2, who are "streets ahead" of us? The eels? Another side who got belted by the cowboys, whom we beat.

                I hope these guys don't get paid to write stuff they think up after drinking a six pack....
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                the eels played the tigers in to form … not even the chooks have achieved that

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                • #9
                  Looking forward from now on to the Cowboys being labelled "heavyweights" against whomever they play, now that they are clear 3rd, with all the expectations that entails.

                  Also, now that it appears they are one of the competition heavyweights, I hope master coach Todd Payten is prepared for accusations of refereeing bias favouring his side any time a decision goes in their favour. That was his theory wasn't it?

                  BTW, we thrashed these heavyweights 28-4.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by player 1 View Post
                    Looking forward from now on to the Cowboys being labelled "heavyweights" against whomever they play, now that they are clear 3rd, with all the expectations that entails.

                    Also, now that it appears they are one of the competition heavyweights, I hope master coach Todd Payten is prepared for accusations of refereeing bias favouring his side any time a decision goes in their favour. That was his theory wasn't it?

                    BTW, we thrashed these heavyweights 28-4.
                    LOLz well said...

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by player 1 View Post
                      Looking forward from now on to the Cowboys being labelled "heavyweights" against whomever they play, now that they are clear 3rd, with all the expectations that entails.

                      Also, now that it appears they are one of the competition heavyweights, I hope master coach Todd Payten is prepared for accusations of refereeing bias favouring his side any time a decision goes in their favour. That was his theory wasn't it?

                      BTW, we thrashed these heavyweights 28-4.
                      ive rated payten since he was at the warriors to be fair i reckon there are worse coaches in the league . i secretly hoped he wpuldstay at the warriors as i thought he could develop something special there.

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                      • #12
                        Yes our form line is looking very weird.

                        A big win away to an excellent Cowboys team. Thrashed Manly. A good win away to a hugely improved Broncos team who played very well.

                        And then three losses to absolute lemons - Knights, Dragons and Dogs.

                        Very old school Roosters like in terms of inconsistency.

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                        • #13
                          if heavyweight describes a club that has done well for a while then we're still up there. we've won half of the last four comps

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Tommy Smith View Post
                            Yes our form line is looking very weird.

                            A big win away to an excellent Cowboys team. Thrashed Manly. A good win away to a hugely improved Broncos team who played very well.

                            And then three losses to absolute lemons - Knights, Dragons and Dogs.

                            Very old school Roosters like in terms of inconsistency.
                            I hadn't really thought about it quite like this. I said when we struggled to beat the Broncos that you shouldn't judge the Roosters on how they much they may struggle to beat a team that is low on the ladder. All that matters is how those teams play on the day. The Broncos played very well against us, and we still managed to beat them. They've also shown that they're a pretty solid team since then.

                            Likewise, I think that while we did pump the Cowboys, they were very ordinary that night. I didn't think we were exceptional or anything.

                            Form line is definitely very interesting, but I do think we were much improved last night, and have a lot more upside heading into the middle part of the season compared to a lot of other teams. There is a lot of improvement left in us, and we're still going OK at the moment.

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                            • #15
                              Doesn't worry me at all. I look at it like they can't realistically whine about their salary sombrero fantasies.

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