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  • #16
    Barely remember that terrible Fairfax era.
    Exonerate the West Memphis Three - www.wm3.org

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    • #17
      Originally posted by BraveTheWorld View Post
      Maguire might be a bit hard done by on this list. The Tigers surely have the absolute worst squad in the comp, and maybe Maguire shoulders some responsibility for that, but players also simply don't want to play there unless they're being paid boatloads for it. I think Madge is a decent coach.

      I've never rated Walters either, but they're certainly playing some good footy.

      I think people should understand that not everything is on the coach. You can have a good coach fail with an awful roster or at a terrible club. Some of the clubs in the NRL don't look salvageable in the near future.
      Warren Ryan said if you don't have socks you can't pull them up in regards to playing rosters.
      I agree with what you're saying in that their is a huge gulf in quality between the good and bad teams in particular in the important spine positions.
      What I will say about Barrett is I can't think of any player who improved under his coaching, he had to go.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Tennessee Tornado View Post
        Surely Chupa Chup Anderson's tenure at the roosters has to go down as one of the worst
        1 marker was a game changer

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Noosa Rooster View Post

          Success will always give coaches some space to run the show. Not sure we are any more tolerant than other clubs when we don't have the success we've had for the best part of the last decade. Robbo has had the longest run at this club of any coach in the last 45 years that I've followed them. We have been pretty quick to get rid of them in the past - Chris Anderson, Brian Smith - even though we made a GF, and even favourite sons, Freddy and Russell Fairfax all got the chop pretty quickly when signs of possible success weren't there.

          As for Gus, the Riff got rid of him after he sacked 2 coaches. Could it be that he is actually part of the problem?
          Nick doesn’t suffer fools which is why robbo has been here so long….. even despite losing the dressing room this year

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          • #20
            I look upon the coaching career at the Roosters of Mark Murray with an affection now as it led to the Freddy era.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Johnny Brass View Post

              Warren Ryan said if you don't have socks you can't pull them up in regards to playing rosters.
              I agree with what you're saying in that their is a huge gulf in quality between the good and bad teams in particular in the important spine positions.
              What I will say about Barrett is I can't think of any player who improved under his coaching, he had to go.
              Yeah, I totally agree. Outside of seeming to be somewhat successful as an assistant coach, Barrett has never had his team playing like a first grade standard side, in two stints as head coach.
              The Bulldogs team on paper isn't outrageous, but they recruited well enough this year that I believe a good coach would definitely have them doing better than they are at the moment.

              It's also just the manner in which they play, and the way his Manly side played. They look atrocious at basically all stages of the game, week in and week out.

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              • #22
                Brad Arthur isn’t the worst coach. It would be pretty hard to coach Parra for him and any other coach I’d imagine.
                EASTS TO WIN!

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by QWERTY View Post
                  Brad Arthur isn’t the worst coach. It would be pretty hard to coach Parra for him and any other coach I’d imagine.
                  I think it all comes down to the board of a club in terms of success.

                  look at the dogs their members have such a massive influence on their board who make changes based on what the members say… could you imagine Nick making decisions on what us raving lunatics have to say?

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Rooster36 View Post

                    1 marker was a game changer
                    I think that may have been Ricko's (Luke Ricketson's ) idea the one marker

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                    • #25
                      Bit harsh on a couple of those OP:

                      Walters - after a slow start, is getting there. Brisbane have turned the corner and look contenders. I think he is probably a great coach for culture.
                      Maguire - has won a comp. The man can certainly coach. The debate is probably around whether he is too intense for the young fellas these days.
                      O'Brien - jury is out. At times the Knights have looked alright. Will take a bit longer to make an assessment
                      Arthur - Always has the Eels thereabouts and in the mix. Does seem to lack that little bit extra to get them to the big dance though.

                      Griffin and Brown are the only two shite coaches out of that lot imo.
                      Brown especially. His NRL record is atrocious.

                      I think this is a pretty fair ranking of current/recent NRL coaches...........................

                      The Pinnacle:
                      Robbo
                      Bennett
                      Bellamy

                      Master Coaches: (flawed, but are good and have what it takes to win a comp)
                      Hasler
                      Cleary
                      Maguire
                      Green
                      Stuart

                      Could Be Anything: (Have shown glimpses of being able to go all the way, but without the consistency or longevity needed)
                      Arthur
                      Walters
                      Fitzy
                      Morris
                      O'Brien
                      Payten

                      Trash:
                      Barrett
                      Kearney
                      Holbrook
                      Brown
                      Pay
                      Griffin
                      Seibold
                      McGregor

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Steakface View Post
                        Bit harsh on a couple of those OP:
                        That's no way to talk to Sir Drinxalot!

                        I mean I could've been harsher. I gave the benefit of the doubt to that moron who is coaching souffs.

                        Walters is a goose, bronco pty ltd's improvement is down to other factors.
                        McGuire is a martinet. Very divisive.
                        O'Brien has no self control.
                        Stuart burns people out.
                        Skelator, Bellamy and Cleary are all morally bankrupt.
                        Arthur is clueless.
                        Hasler destroyed the berries....................but I guess we owe him a favour for that.

                        Anyrate, I wouldn't want any of them near our Roosters.



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                        • #27
                          Dud coaches?

                          "Can't win without the cattle".

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by eddie View Post

                            That's no way to talk to Sir Drinxalot!

                            I mean I could've been harsher. I gave the benefit of the doubt to that moron who is coaching souffs.

                            Walters is a goose, bronco pty ltd's improvement is down to other factors.
                            McGuire is a martinet. Very divisive.
                            O'Brien has no self control.
                            Stuart burns people out.
                            Skelator, Bellamy and Cleary are all morally bankrupt.
                            Arthur is clueless.
                            Hasler destroyed the berries....................but I guess we owe him a favour for that.

                            Anyrate, I wouldn't want any of them near our Roosters.


                            Not sure how you justify that. He took them to the finals each year he coached them.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Noosa Rooster View Post

                              Not sure how you justify that. He took them to the finals each year he coached them.
                              If eddie means the disastrous back ended contracts that Hasler has a knack of, then I agree, the money some of those “stars” were on near the end of their contracts were criminal, and left the club with no cap room for years.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by milanja View Post

                                If eddie means the disastrous back ended contracts that Hasler has a knack of, then I agree, the money some of those “stars” were on near the end of their contracts were criminal, and left the club with no cap room for years.
                                Ok that may be so.

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