Isolating the Raiders four tries - who or whom is at fault

[King Salvo]

When you isolate the Four Raiders tries it is interesting to note the prior errors that contributed to these.

My viewing of the events are listed in the analysis of each of the tries. - you may have a different view - I also ask the question who/whom was at fault for each of these four tries.

First try

The Roosters had two markers - I think Sitili must have called out of the play by the ref. Manu was defending near the posts and moved to his left obviously thinking the ball was going to be passed along the raiders attacking line - the Raiders player that was passed the ball looks up and saw a huge gap and runs through and scores a very easy try

Who/Whom is at Fault ? - Mine is Manu as he needed to cover that gap

Second try

Suaalii looses the ball in the play the ball giving the Raiders possession- a set restart conceded by Crichton and Raiders score in the ensuring set of 6

If Suaalii doesn't lose the ball in the play the ball then that try isn't scored

Who/Whom is at Fault- Mine is Suaalii as he needed to play the ball correctly

Third Try

Keary's kick is Charge downed and Raiders score

Who/Whom is at Fault - Mine is the Blockers allowing the Raiders players to get that close

Fourth Try

Manu fails to gather a kick from Frawley and the Raiders regain possession and score in the ensuring set of 6.

Yes Momirovski missed the tackle but if Manu gathers the ball from the kick then there is no missed tackle or Raiders try.

Who/Whom is at Fault?- Mine is initially Manu as you need to catch the ball on the full from kicks and to a lesser extent Momirovski who needed to go low tackle wise.

[Inflictor]

Our goal line defence has been poor at times this year. Improved the last few weeks though.
We missed JWH, Collins and Rads today.
The young guys like Baker, DSF, May and Ebutch just haven't got it in them yet. We are exposed when we have a few of them on the field.
Not having a go at them but the three missing was huge for us. We need our strongest team and we can beat any of the top teams.

[FlamingRooster]

Charge down try shouldn’t have counted. Look at replay. Horsburgh is already a metre in front of ref and line before Watson touches the ball

[doves07]

May aswell say the coin toss lost it for us

[King Salvo]

Charge down try shouldn’t have counted. Look at replay. Horsburgh is already a metre in front of ref and line before Watson touches the ball

He seemed to get there pretty quick - where were the blockers as well ?

[Jacks Fur Coat]

I get what you are trying to do King, and at the least it's interesting.....but, there is so much subjectivity in such an analysis it's almost irrelevant in identifying key accountabilities.

[milanja]

First try SST just watched like he was in the stands, butcher was then made to miss a one on one tackle.

and on the charge down, it was an attacking kick, so pretty rare you would need blockers when they should all be trying to get to the ball.

[BraveTheWorld]

I’d have to say at least re the charge down, Keary was standing too flat. He always looks a likely candidate for a charge down, and I imagine he stands a bit flatter because he doesn’t have the biggest boot.

I’d definitely rather he stood an extra metre or two back though.

in regards to Suaalii’s dropped ball; he obviously isn’t at fault for the try. He shouldn’t make the error, but what the strong Roosters’ sides have always done is defend their errors, and they should’ve done it today.

[ism22]

It's always easy to blame the goalie. IMO it's our strategy that failed, although this resulted in individuals being unable to defend various tries.

Two were indefensible so I'm not too bummed. Faders had a LOT of luck with that farking Whore's Brother smack-down (with his hands - intentionally forward) and that conplete cock-up that was picked up by sheer fluke.

No disrespect to the Faders but it was a shyte game. Both teams had a stack of key players out. They won because it was a scrappy game where we offered too little, too late.

Time to move on. We've got a few dastardly weeks like this ahead. Crucifying our idols won't help.

[Eggspert]

We can't rewind live games. Those mistakes happened & we dealt with them & were on top with 10min left until Momo sucked the air out of our comeback with a standard missed tackle.

The 3 previous mistakes can be forgiven by players who haven't been average for 13 rds so far.

His YouTube resume package to Robbo must have been awesome to get resigned.

[King Salvo]

I get what you are trying to do King, and at the least it's interesting.....but, there is so much subjectivity in such an analysis it's almost irrelevant in identifying key accountabilities.

It's Causation - i.e A player losing the ball and the opposition then scores in the ensuring set of six as a result of a missed tackle - the first error of losing possession brought the second error of the missed tackle into existence. The second error (missed tackle) would not have happened if the first error ( loss of possession) hadn't occurred.

[Jacks Fur Coat]

It's Causation - i.e A player losing the ball and the opposition then scores in the ensuring set of six as a result of a missed tackle - the first error of losing possession brought the second error of the missed tackle into existence. The second error (missed tackle) would not have happened if the first error ( loss of possession) hadn't occurred.

Yes, but if me Aunty had etc..

You could get many different reads on who is most culpable for individual scores against, including how far you want to rewind from the scoring play....is my point.

[King Salvo]

Yes, but if me Aunty had etc..

You could get many different reads on who is most culpable for individual scores against, including how far you want to rewind from the scoring play....is my point.

Not sure why you would go back to something that happened in the 5th minute and equate it to something happening in the 15th minutes.

The errors by Suaalii and Manu gave the Raiders possession and they scored tries in the ensuring set of six or possession period as the Roosters conceding a set restart in the ensuring set of six after the Suaalii error - if those errors were not made then the Raiders dint have to ball - causation. my point

[roosterproud]

The charge down kick fail was due to zKeary being up to flat and a slow play the ball.

[rented tracksuit]

Charge down try shouldn’t have counted. Look at replay. Horsburgh is already a metre in front of ref and line before Watson touches the ball

Be fair mate. He was just trying to get up there before the trainer.