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  • #16
    Originally posted by King Salvo View Post

    Not sure why you would go back to something that happened in the 5th minute and equate it to something happening in the 15th minutes.

    The errors by Suaalii and Manu gave the Raiders possession and they scored tries in the ensuring set of six or possession period as the Roosters conceding a set restart in the ensuring set of six after the Suaalii error - if those errors were not made then the Raiders dint have to ball - causation. my point
    you could also blame walker for missing the shot at goal to level the game up, mentally it changes the players mindset by needing to play catch up, or both teams playing and setting up for a field goal.

    Directly, That try was solely on momo’s missed tackle,own it.

    Indirectly, it could go back as far as letting Latrell leave.

    we can all make stories up to suit an agenda.


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    • #17
      1st try SST called offside at marker should still have got involved along with a missed tackle from Butcher

      2nd try Freakish catch off his ankles on the run If you wanted to pint a finger it would have to be at May whom I think was the player who dropped off on the play not thinking the Raiders player would catch it like he did

      Try 3 Shit service from dummy half Keary kick charged down

      Try 4 Absolutely pathetic one on one miss by Momorovski
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      • #18
        Originally posted by milanja View Post

        you could also blame walker for missing the shot at goal to level the game up, mentally it changes the players mindset by needing to play catch up, or both teams playing and setting up for a field goal.

        Directly, That try was solely on momo’s missed tackle,own it.

        Indirectly, it could go back as far as letting Latrell leave.

        we can all make stories up to suit an agenda.

        I went as far back as to blame Freddie for selecting Toops in SOO

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        • #19
          I'll agree with you on the blockers for the keary charge down Salvo, it's an attention to detail that you would never see the storm forwards not do and was inexcusable.

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          • #20
            At the end of the day we lost to a pretty average team. Again.

            Not good enough.
            Born and bred in the eastern suburbs.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by FlamingRooster View Post
              Charge down try shouldn’t have counted. Look at replay. Horsburgh is already a metre in front of ref and line before Watson touches the ball
              Their first try was from a forward pass too, but it seems as though the dummy half is allowed to pass it forward in 2022 (our dummy half is no exception, Jake Friend was probably one of the worst culprits).

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              • #22
                Generally, I believe that we were defeated in the middle, which ultimately led to less tries to us and more tries for them.

                Its been a problem for us all year, I've been telling Robbo (via the Chookpen of course) that we need another dominant middle forward, the likes of Haas, someone to take over from JWH. I also like Cotter for the Cowboys, Tino, Tapine, so forth.

                Its great when JWH and Rads are both fit and healthy, but we seem to struggle to bend the line.

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                • #23
                  I place the blame on Origin. Having our best team on board I believe would have secured an easy win.
                  “Soon will the present day order be rolled up, and a new one spread out in its stead”- (Baha’u’llah)

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by roosterchook View Post
                    I place the blame on Origin. Having our best team on board I believe would have secured an easy win.
                    Can't blame origin. We've been dealing with this since 1996.

                    This team is just a long way from being the finished product. Losing so many experienced players over the past two seasons has hurt badly.

                    I'm also baffled by some of our recruitment. Would have preferred to keep Ikuvalu to Naiqama. And that is saying something.

                    Our depth in some positions is very questionable (second row, dummy half, three-quarters...).
                    Born and bred in the eastern suburbs.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by The Corner Post View Post

                      Their first try was from a forward pass too, but it seems as though the dummy half is allowed to pass it forward in 2022 (our dummy half is no exception, Jake Friend was probably one of the worst culprits).
                      Ye but so was our first try... Gee isn't a biased ref, hes just a bad ref. Misses too much whilst somehow paradoxically calling too many penalties

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by The Corner Post View Post
                        Generally, I believe that we were defeated in the middle, which ultimately led to less tries to us and more tries for them.

                        Its been a problem for us all year, I've been telling Robbo (via the Chookpen of course) that we need another dominant middle forward, the likes of Haas, someone to take over from JWH. I also like Cotter for the Cowboys, Tino, Tapine, so forth.

                        Its great when JWH and Rads are both fit and healthy, but we seem to struggle to bend the line.
                        Bang on I
                        couldn't agree more.

                        The old saying forwards win games...
                        then we lose without our 2 best props and threads pop up about our terrible backs after a loss.

                        Win the middle then everything falls into place

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Vasco View Post
                          Can't blame origin. We've been dealing with this since 1996.

                          This team is just a long way from being the finished product. Losing so many experienced players over the past two seasons has hurt badly.

                          I'm also baffled by some of our recruitment. Would have preferred to keep Ikuvalu to Naiqama. And that is saying something.

                          Our depth in some positions is very questionable (second row, dummy half, three-quarters...).
                          That is a major factor I agree but I think we would have beat the raiders with our stars playing.
                          “Soon will the present day order be rolled up, and a new one spread out in its stead”- (Baha’u’llah)

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by roosterchook View Post

                            That is a major factor I agree but I think we would have beat the raiders with our stars playing.
                            Possibly. We lost to the Dogs, Steelers and Knights with our "stars".

                            Born and bred in the eastern suburbs.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by FlamingRooster View Post

                              Ye but so was our first try... Gee isn't a biased ref, hes just a bad ref. Misses too much whilst somehow paradoxically calling too many penalties
                              Gee likes the sound of his own whistle!

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