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  • #76
    Originally posted by Rooster1908 View Post

    Rubbish , we are 7 and 7 .We as you say we're currently competitive .So what did being competitive give us 2 points . Did it move us up the ladder or down. Being competitive doesn't win comps and that's what been should play for .We are not the dogs or tigers we are the Roosters and being competitive is just not enough.
    No you are 100% right.
    Enjoy Mad Monday.

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    • #77
      Originally posted by Kelby View Post

      He has to change it up and stop being too loyal, but then, do we have anyone better pushing for first grade? Any takers on Curtis Scott? Any good players in Jersey Flegg ready to step up?
      He's been criticised of being too loyal his whole career, when will we move beyond this mind set of players must chnage everytime somethings not working? Continuity in team and belief in skill over form seem to work in the long run far more often than change for the sake of change.

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      • #78
        Originally posted by Rocky Rhodes View Post

        Point is we cannot forever live in the past like Souffs...thought that was obvious.

        Point is Robbo's performance should be scrutinized like all others or should we just give him 1 million per yr for the next 20 yrs without care for performance.

        I'm not anti-Robbo...just saying any constructive criticism is fair...he has been here 9 yrs so recruitment is mostly his responsibility.

        And no, I'm not calling for his sacking...or anything drastic like that.
        I agree that his performance should he up for criticism, everyone's should.

        I just think his 2 premierships in 4yrs should hold some weight when discussing his current ability to perform, you dont just forget how to coach.

        Souths premierships 50yrs ago have no relevance on their ability today.

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        • #79
          Originally posted by Rooster_6 View Post

          He's been criticised of being too loyal his whole career, when will we move beyond this mind set of players must chnage everytime somethings not working? Continuity in team and belief in skill over form seem to work in the long run far more often than change for the sake of change.
          So your happy with our 2022 progress?

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          • #80
            Originally posted by Rooster_6 View Post

            I agree that his performance should he up for criticism, everyone's should.

            I just think his 2 premierships in 4yrs should hold some weight when discussing his current ability to perform, you dont just forget how to coach.

            Souths premierships 50yrs ago have no relevance on their ability today.
            And Roosters premiership 3 and 4 years ago have no relevance to our 2022 ability .Never rest on your lorals , it breeds laziness

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            • #81
              Your mum is on Robbo.

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              • #82
                Originally posted by Kelby View Post

                So your happy with our 2022 progress?
                No but I consider the evidence of the last 5 years when analysing ability. Should we not?

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by Rooster1908 View Post

                  And Roosters premiership 3 and 4 years ago have no relevance to our 2022 ability .Never rest on your lorals , it breeds laziness
                  They speak to Robinson's competence and ability, which is my point.

                  Has nothing to do with resting on one's laurels, laziness would be to not use all the data available to you to anlayse our current situation and just base it on the last 14 weeks.

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by Rooster1908 View Post

                    So Billy who should take responsibility for there poor form and preparation. Surely the buck must stop somewhere . In all businesses there is a head of the snake. Missing tackles is a poor sign of a bad attitude and that is on the coach and his staff
                    It is usually the case that the coach is nominated for the failure of their side, the nature of the beast. As in this case, a group of topline footballers in a professionally managed and successful club, with an astute coach, that under perform, sometimes to the level of park footy, must take ownership of the lackluster effort. Could it be that the rest of the competition have us worked out, or they (some) are better than us?
                    If it is as it appears the supreme head of the snake has given the appointed head of the snake a free hand in the playing list, then I (contradictory) reluctantly agree that the coach is where the buck stops, rightly or wrongly.

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by j.w.pepper View Post
                      Drop Momirovski, the worst buy in years, the bloke does not know how to tackle, why does Robbo keep playing him? FFS
                      If he was the reason for the losses then Robbo would replace him but of course he is not

                      Where Tries are Conceded 2022 so far - Left side 33% (10th ) - Middle - 31% (1st ) - Right side 36% (13th)

                      Fairly even where tries are scored - defence across the board needs to improve not only individual players - Noting that Walker is 8th in missed tackles with 50 and Manu 18th with 41 - Sitili 44th with 32 and Momirovski - 49th with 31 - One more game to play.

                      Tries Conceded - Left/Middle/Right

                      2019 Roosters conceded 61 tries - 30% - 34% - 36%
                      2020 Roosters conceded 63 tries - 30% - 24% - 46%
                      2021 Roosters conceded 94 Tries - 24% - 36% - 40%
                      2022 Roosters have conceded 47 tries so far after 14 rounds - 33% - 31% - 36%

                      Tries Scored

                      2019 Roosters scored 116 tries - 49% - 24% - 27%
                      2020 Roosters scored 102 tries - 40% - 19% - 41%
                      2021 Roosters scored 122 tries - 37% - 19% - 44%
                      2022 Roosters have scored 55 tries so far after 14 rounds - 44% - 12% - 44%
                      Last edited by King Salvo; 06-13-2022, 03:22 PM.

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by BillyBonkers View Post

                        It is usually the case that the coach is nominated for the failure of their side, the nature of the beast. As in this case, a group of topline footballers in a professionally managed and successful club, with an astute coach, that under perform, sometimes to the level of park footy, must take ownership of the lackluster effort. Could it be that the rest of the competition have us worked out, or they (some) are better than us?
                        If it is as it appears the supreme head of the snake has given the appointed head of the snake a free hand in the playing list, then I (contradictory) reluctantly agree that the coach is where the buck stops, rightly or wrongly.
                        It would be nice for whoever says the buck stops with the coach also says how he should be held accountable.
                        Do you want him sacked? Pay cut? Walk through Bondi with Uncle Nick whipping him saying SHAME, SHAME, SHAME.

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by ism22 View Post
                          Your mum is on Robbo.
                          Not sure whose Mum you refer to but mine has passed away recently as others may have as well. Not a good post old mate

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by Inflictor View Post

                            It would be nice for whoever says the buck stops with the coach also says how he should be held accountable.
                            Do you want him sacked? Pay cut? Walk through Bondi with Uncle Nick whipping him saying SHAME, SHAME, SHAME.
                            For me I want him to change things. Drop players ,give someone else a go , change the way we play . Watson to lock maybe .What have we got to loose. We are 8 and sliding fast .

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by Rooster1908 View Post

                              Not sure whose Mum you refer to but mine has passed away recently as others may have as well. Not a good post old mate
                              Yeah a shocker from Ism22. Maybe should stick with his rave parties.
                              #We Stand with ourJewish community#

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                              • #90
                                We have lost some irreplaceable players to retirement and replacing them with adequate talent is proving to be very difficult no fault whatsoever of coach or players who give their all every game. It will just take time to replace those players so meanwhile we just accept the reality knowing that getting back to our best won’t happen overnight. In 2016 we came 15th but the following year finished 2nd. Let’s be reasonable and fair and give Robbo and the club a chance to rebuild after the retirement of so many top players.
                                “Soon will the present day order be rolled up, and a new one spread out in its stead”- (Baha’u’llah)

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