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    I've been confused as to what his best position is.
    That lazy forward pass from dummy half last night seems to sum up his season so far.
    I don't want to see him at hooker again.
    If he's a lock, I can't see him in the team at all when Radleys fit.

    Why not try him in Momorovskis position?
    He has a good running game and is fairly solid defensively.

  • #2
    I struggle to understand the Watson slander. I'm not defending him at all, as he gets paid to play league, and should do a job no matter what, but he was recruited to come off the bench and fill in at lock/forwards, not playing dummy half because our main hooker is made of glass, and Robinson has too much pride to bring up a Marshcke/Lam to play 9 (whilst Verrills is out). This reminds me of Radley in 2018/19 when he had to play 9. He was absolutely abysmal. Not because he didn't try, but because he was simply not a hooker. As for playing in the centres for Momorovski, it's a left field option, and I'm confident Robinson would never try it, but I'd be happy with anyone replacing that turnstile. Every single try down that left side yesterday. I understand not every try was his fault, but for this supposed defensive centre, he has shown absolutely none of that this season. You could put Keighran there and it's a simple swap. I don't care what his form is like in Cup (playing well anyways) but Momorovski has literally played himself out of the 17, week in, week out.

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    • #3
      This reminds me of his presser for indigenous round.
      At the 30 second mark the reporter asks him.
      "This is the first time in your career that you have been criticised. Is that difficult to take? Have you heard it, seen it?"

      He laughs and says, "I actually haven't. It's news to me. There you go".

      He mustn't have an account here.

      https://www.roosters.com.au/news/202...one-to-buy-in/

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      • #4
        Originally posted by eddie View Post
        I've been confused as to what his best position is.
        That lazy forward pass from dummy half last night seems to sum up his season so far.
        I don't want to see him at hooker again.
        If he's a lock, I can't see him in the team at all when Radleys fit.

        Why not try him in Momorovskis position?
        He has a good running game and is fairly solid defensively.
        His best position is.....Utility.

        He is a genuine No.14. He has an amalagmation of different skills that can be executed proficiently in a first grade NRL team.

        He won't ever be at the upper echelon in any position, because there are far too many specialists who are superior.

        As you've alluded to, it's quite likely center is likely position he'd really be able to make a fist of... But can't see the coach putting him there unless we've got an injury emergency.

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        • #5
          Bringing Watson back to the chooks was akin to bringing Copley back for a Swansong .
          It's not a good look for our recruitment team when we have to get rid of the same player twice.
          Momo could get 3 cracks he's going that bad

          I wonder what Hall dogs doing next year.
          Could be worth another shot

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Steakface View Post
            As you've alluded to, it's quite likely center is likely position he'd really be able to make a fist of... But can't see the coach putting him there unless we've got an injury emergency.
            I think he has all the attributes to make a success of the centre position. Why not experiment this year?

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            • #7
              You guys are kidding if you think Watson can defend in the centres against the same powerful centres that are making Momo look second rate.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by dice View Post
                You guys are kidding if you think Watson can defend in the centres against the same powerful centres that are making Momo look second rate.
                Why?
                People want him defending in the middle. Surely he's a better defender than Momo.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by eddie View Post

                  Why?
                  People want him defending in the middle. Surely he's a better defender than Momo.
                  I don't want him defending anywhere. It is no coincidence our defense has collapsed a few times almost immediately after Hutch replaced by Watson. It gets hidden when Watson is defending in the middle because the surrounding forwards can compress a little to protect him. What isn't hidden is the extra space this creates out wide. I believe this is part of our problem at the moment having two small halves and Watson who all need protecting.

                  If you put Watson in the centres you are talking him away from his bodyguards and asking him to defend one-on-one against the same powerful centres that Momo is struggling against. I much prefer my chances with bigger bodied Momo figuring it out before the finals, or look for another big centre.



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                  • #10
                    If Momo keeps his position in the team(which I rather he be replaced) I would play Sualli in the centre when the opposition have the ball...his defence is excellent.. and switch to the wing when we have the ball for our aerial attack. The big downside is Momo would be running it out on their kick on the 6th, unless momo and sualli switch on their 6th..

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by gragra View Post
                      If Momo keeps his position in the team(which I rather he be replaced) I would play Sualli in the centre when the opposition have the ball...his defence is excellent.. and switch to the wing when we have the ball for our aerial attack. The big downside is Momo would be running it out on their kick on the 6th, unless momo and sualli switch on their 6th..
                      Different sides of the field makes it hard to swap.
                      I think Suaalii is ready to be moved into centre but where? Next to Toups we lose the ariel advantage on both sides. Other option is move Toups next to Manu but who to put with Suaalii. Only Momo, Smith or possibly Carr but either combination is a worry.
                      We just don't have that great depth in the backs.
                      Best possible is Suaalii next to Toups with Smith next to Manu imo.
                      The answer is a pineapple.

                      Get Bmoz out of retirement and we win the comp.

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                      • #12
                        What made his lazy forward pass even worse was him mouthing off when it happened that it was in some way Butcher's fault. For people on here who criticize Verrills, Watson is not fit to tie Verrills' boots when it comes to playing 9.

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                        • #13
                          Momirovski perceived defence issues are related to the defence issues players inside him have - Walker for an example who is 7th om missed tackles list- 50 - Reason why teams are attacking the left side.

                          Walker needs to improve that area of his game and his decision making in defence as his defence decision's are putting the pressure on players who defend inside and outside him.

                          Same as the Right side where Keary defends - Manu 16th on the missed tackle list with 41.

                          I would rather the Roosters use a direct defence - one line moving forward rather than the watch wait and see crabbing/sliding style of defence - you need to take time and space away from the ball carrier and their support players and force them to make decisions not wait until they do xyz.

                          I have said this numerous times i would have the halves defend on the wing as basically you need them fresh for their attack not fatigued as a result of being targeted in defence.

                          https://www.nrl.com/stats/players/?c...on=2022&stat=4

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Steakface View Post

                            His best position is.....Utility.

                            He is a genuine No.14. He has an amalagmation of different skills that can be executed proficiently in a first grade NRL team.

                            He won't ever be at the upper echelon in any position, because there are far too many specialists who are superior.

                            As you've alluded to, it's quite likely center is likely position he'd really be able to make a fist of... But can't see the coach putting him there unless we've got an injury emergency.
                            Bingo. His strength is that (unlike most of the Bears), you can play him in multiple positions when top-tier players are out (or need a rest) and he'll do alright. Heck I thought he was one of our best against the Faders!!!

                            I think that people constantly calling for players to be sacked seem to always forget that there is often no better alternative.

                            THE better alternative is having the Cheese join us (next year), Verrills fit, Radley fit and Keary/Walker not both rubbed out of large parts of the game.

                            In such situations, your alternative is playing guys who simply aren't as good as Watson. We don't have an ace up our sleeve!!!! How difficult is that to understand? Same goes for Momirovski.

                            As a footy fan, I think it's clear that Robbo knows his players and the game of footy better than any of us. If people think they're better... feel free to send your CVs to Uncle Nick!

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by ism22 View Post

                              Bingo. His strength is that (unlike most of the Bears), you can play him in multiple positions when top-tier players are out (or need a rest) and he'll do alright. Heck I thought he was one of our best against the Faders!!!

                              I think that people constantly calling for players to be sacked seem to always forget that there is often no better alternative.

                              THE better alternative is having the Cheese join us (next year), Verrills fit, Radley fit and Keary/Walker not both rubbed out of large parts of the game.

                              In such situations, your alternative is playing guys who simply aren't as good as Watson. We don't have an ace up our sleeve!!!! How difficult is that to understand? Same goes for Momirovski.

                              As a footy fan, I think it's clear that Robbo knows his players and the game of footy better than any of us. If people think they're better... feel free to send your CVs to Uncle Nick!
                              Most of of these folk on here dishing players one has to say don't have a great knowledge of the game and are really just venting mainly about the same players- One even suggested that Radley should play on the wing because they perceived him too small to play in the forwards.

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