SQUAD v DRAGONS

[Thirteen]

Still waiting for the day we get our full strength side out on the park,even for one week would be helpful!

Could be a long wait Mate.

[Johnny73]

What's this gibberish about Nat Butcher as a starting prop. That's as arse stupid an idea as when Fitzy was prop or David Barnhill before him.

[DP1990]

So no Collins (obviously) and now no JWH ?

Lodge is in but Nat Butcher starting as the other prop ?

Has Terrell May done something wrong where he isn't being picked ? If anything, put Angus at starting prop and utilise Nat on the edge ffs.


Doesn't that make more sense ?!?!

[GateKeeper]

I agree with you Rooster R. Manu at 5/8 has worked well and playing Sualli at centre would be a great move considering how dynamic, focused and disciplined he is. Not sure whether we have a good winger coming through the grades to play right wing...but one of you will know. Momoroski has been a massive disappointment.

[milanja]

looking for tauks to play big mins. lodge won't get big mins but he's another big body. we're not powder puffs. the butchers will do a job. we've got some talent in the backs

What did Roy and HG call Fittler, about to cut loose?

that’s how I rate the butcher boys at the moment.

[Maxy Walker]

AK needs photos of Robbo naked to get into first grade. He should ask Momo for some.

Lol people need to stop crapping on about Keighran he is just a depth player who is not going to make any difference to anything. Same with Lam.

[ARD]

Blows my mind that people don’t see the value of Nat.

[roosterchook]

Our players put in 100% effort each week but four straight losses highlights we have other major deficiencies which need to be addressed. My opinion is some of our players are not 1st grade quality and few ‘greats’ are way overhyped. Being without Keary is highly disruptive and we lack go forward. Add to that our errors and penalties from poor discipline and that to me explains everything. Just effort alone is not getting us over the line. If we had Lodge, JWH and Keary, we could go places.

[Thirteen]

Lol people need to stop crapping on about Keighran he is just a depth player who is not going to make any difference to anything. Same with Lam.

I agree.

[King Salvo]

Yeah the 2 wins from 5 to make the semis was outstanding form.

Down 16-0 after 15 vs Broncos in the semi final and going on to win 22-16 was outstanding.

[roosterchook]

Our forwards are so light we let in a lot of soft tries. Walker as good as he is, gets run right over by heavy forwards to barge over. Our tiny pack just can’t compete even against lower teams with larger forwards.

[ARD]

Our forwards are so light we let in a lot of soft tries. Walker as good as he is, gets run right over by heavy forwards to barge over. Our tiny pack just can’t compete even against lower teams with larger forwards.

BB is that you?

[DP1990]

Blows my mind that people don’t see the value of Nat.

I don't think people are questioning his value or versatility (I for one am not) but there are limitations and certain positions usually require a specific build or style of player.

Nat Butcher can play second row, lock and heck fill in the centres perhaps if need be but to play and function as a prop ? To take big hit ups and stand his ground in defence against blokes that over 6 ft and over 100kg (for example) ? ... Yeah nah


Terrell May or even Fletcher Baker are more appropriate 'bodies' for the position of prop.

[ChookMaster]

I don't think people are questioning his value or versatility (I for one am not) but there are limitations and certain positions usually require a specific build or style of player.

Nat Butcher can play second row, lock and heck fill in the centres perhaps if need be but to play and function as a prop ? To take big hit ups and stand his ground in defence against blokes that over 6 ft and over 100kg (for example) ? ... Yeah nah


Terrell May or even Fletcher Baker are more appropriate 'bodies' for the position of prop.

What are you on about? You do realise a lock forward also effectively tackles those same big “ over 6 ft and 100 KGs” and to further back up my point I would argue Nat as one of our best defenders. He’s made over 55 tackles in a game quite a few times for us before, I’m not worried about him for that reason.

The killer for me and could be for others is he averages 80m a game from 9 runs. Last year 10 runs and 85M. That’s well under 10M a carry and only 9-10 runs in him based on average draws a comparison to me - he’s our Josh Jackson. Makes his tackles, cleans up the ruck well and is a great role model for younger blokes to learn off but lacks that aggression in offensive plays and has no tackle breaking or offloading ( it seems he’s lost it) ability.

P.S Not to be a rambling fool but you want baker to replace butcher? Although baker is listed as a prop and might make the move seem more sensible have you seen the guy also take it up for us in all fairness? He’s as bad as Nat man, has no venom in his runs at all for a big bloke that’s pretty telling.

[zac]

What did Roy and HG call Fittler, about to cut loose?

that’s how I rate the butcher boys at the moment.

i don't know - what? i thought their nick name for him was adolf