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  • #16
    I understand what you mean Chook. I've noticed that other players, not just Pearce, who were present at the times of "incidents" have not been involved but surely could have intervened.
    A curfew and a ban on alcohol should not be necessary if the boys would act responsibly, but as they don't seem to care it is up to management to DO SOMETHING!
    It is not fair to the players who do the right thing. I think the main problem with the younger ones is that they have never worked for a boss in an ordinary job environment. They would be sacked!
    It is also impossible to stay 100% fit while going on regular drink binges. They owe it to the club and supporters to give back what they are "earning".
    Last edited by Maggie; 07-08-2009, 11:06 AM.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by BigMike View Post
      I actually ran into Pearce about 2 months back out on the town. It was late, but the kid is pretty composed, he was very polite to me and came across as a kid with a good head on his shoulders.
      He was there with hundreds of other teenagers, who were, like him enjoying a night out on the town. Until his pay packet increases tenfold, why should he give up the life every teenager should have.
      He needs to earn 2.5 million a year before he has to watch himself on the drink? Whilst Pearce hasn't been the culprit in many of these incidents, he is always out on the turps of a weekend. I've heard of quite a few incidents involving Pearce, witnessed a couple myself as well. Funnily enough all you've never seen or heard in the media, but they happened. His 19th birthday celebration at Coogee Bay Hotel was one to be seen, it must have been 4 or 5 separate blokes he tried to pick fights with, each of them seemingly not aggressive at all.

      He's young, he's entitled to a life but there's alot of Joey Johns about the kid, except without a tenth of the talent and in the wrong town to escape the media.

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      • #18
        No, what i am saying is if you want them to deprive themselves of the lifestyle that every teenager has, then pay them enough to compensate for that.

        As for picking fights, when i was talking to him, one of the dipshits in my group kept calling out in the background - 'overrated' and 'Wayne's son' in the background obviously trying to agitate him. If i was Pearce i'd come up to him, and make sure he stops, but the kid simply said to me - 'I get that everywhere - what can you do ?'

        As for the suggestion that he walks around the club trying to pick a fight, c'mon man, we both know that 99% of the time both parties have a case to answer for. Pearce cops it from dimwits on a message board njumerous times a day. How many more would he cop when said dimwits are out in the town drunk as **** ?

        I have always said it - i'd hate to be a footballer. There are always people trying to pull you down to their level because they are obsiously envious of the fact that he is climbing in life.
        Last edited by BigMike; 07-08-2009, 11:12 AM.

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        • #19
          Drinking always comes across as a weird culture for sportsmen. I was watching a movie about Andrew Lauterstein (Australian record in butterfly + 3 olympic medals in Beijing) and thought WTF can't our boys train like champs!

          The guy's not far off beating Phelps and has gained a lot of confidence because he hasn't even touched a beer since Christmas (where he had 1 or 2 beers with the family) and has been training really hard ever since he got his bronze medal so that he can go one or 2 further next time. Asked if he was confident he could make ground on Phelps he said "yes I think so, and we're seeing the results in training... while he's been off smoking bongs I'm in better shape than ever, and while he's taken a long rest from the pool, I've been training harder than ever..."

          Okay so maybe he won't beat Phelps, but I wish our boys could say that! Hold a media conference before the Dragons game or something and get the question "you've got the wooden spoon boys... do you have any confidence you'll be able to pick up your form this week?"... I wish they could say "yeah we haven't touched a beer for 6 months... gotta get your priorities right... we're heading towards the wooden spoon, but that was a wakeup call... we're training harder than ever now... while other teams are out partying hard, we haven't touched a beer since Australia Day. We've been training harder than ever this season and are seeing results both on and off the field..."

          I dunno... maybe not realistic, and I don't want to ruin their fun (if their only fun in the week is a few beers then maybe let them have it)... but they're professional athletes, and we all know alcohol decreases performance... also being PLASTERED the morning after a game's going to ruin your recovery. In a business where you need to squeeze every last bit out of your body, and then some more, I don't think the guys who are sitting on the wooden spoon can afford to go out getting plastered.

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          Are there any footy players who don't drink?

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          • #20
            Originally posted by BigMike View Post
            No, what i am saying is if you want them to deprive themselves of the lifestyle that every teenager has, then pay them enough to compensate for that.

            As for picking fights, when i was talking to him, one of the dipshits in my group kept calling out in the background - 'overrated' and 'Wayne's son' in the background obviously trying to agitate him. If i was Pearce i'd come up to him, and make sure he stops, but the kid simply said to me - 'I get that everywhere - what can you do ?'

            As for the suggestion that he walks around the club trying to pick a fight, c'mon man, we both know that 99% of the time both parties have a case to answer for.

            How many teenagers do you know of that earn hundreds of thousands of dollars to do something they have dreamed of doing...???

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Pass the Ball View Post
              How many teenagers do you know of that earn hundreds of thousands of dollars to do something they have dreamed of doing...???
              i know a few
              lol

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              • #22
                Originally posted by sirgamble View Post
                Drinking always comes across as a weird culture for sportsmen. I was watching a movie about Andrew Lauterstein (Australian record in butterfly + 3 olympic medals in Beijing) and thought WTF can't our boys train like champs!

                The guy's not far off beating Phelps and has gained a lot of confidence because he hasn't even touched a beer since Christmas (where he had 1 or 2 beers with the family) and has been training really hard ever since he got his bronze medal so that he can go one or 2 further next time. Asked if he was confident he could make ground on Phelps he said "yes I think so, and we're seeing the results in training... while he's been off smoking bongs I'm in better shape than ever, and while he's taken a long rest from the pool, I've been training harder than ever..."

                Okay so maybe he won't beat Phelps, but I wish our boys could say that! Hold a media conference before the Dragons game or something and get the question "you've got the wooden spoon boys... do you have any confidence you'll be able to pick up your form this week?"... I wish they could say "yeah we haven't touched a beer for 6 months... gotta get your priorities right... we're heading towards the wooden spoon, but that was a wakeup call... we're training harder than ever now... while other teams are out partying hard, we haven't touched a beer since Australia Day. We've been training harder than ever this season and are seeing results both on and off the field..."

                I dunno... maybe not realistic, and I don't want to ruin their fun (if their only fun in the week is a few beers then maybe let them have it)... but they're professional athletes, and we all know alcohol decreases performance... also being PLASTERED the morning after a game's going to ruin your recovery. In a business where you need to squeeze every last bit out of your body, and then some more, I don't think the guys who are sitting on the wooden spoon can afford to go out getting plastered.

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                Are there any footy players who don't drink?
                They only work for 7 months a year...

                Less than school teachers..

                Party after the job is done....

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                • #23
                  i wish my job was like that.....
                  they're lucky

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by sirgamble View Post
                    Drinking always comes across as a weird culture for sportsmen. I was watching a movie about Andrew Lauterstein (Australian record in butterfly + 3 olympic medals in Beijing) and thought WTF can't our boys train like champs!

                    The guy's not far off beating Phelps and has gained a lot of confidence because he hasn't even touched a beer since Christmas (where he had 1 or 2 beers with the family) and has been training really hard ever since he got his bronze medal so that he can go one or 2 further next time. Asked if he was confident he could make ground on Phelps he said "yes I think so, and we're seeing the results in training... while he's been off smoking bongs I'm in better shape than ever, and while he's taken a long rest from the pool, I've been training harder than ever..."

                    Okay so maybe he won't beat Phelps, but I wish our boys could say that! Hold a media conference before the Dragons game or something and get the question "you've got the wooden spoon boys... do you have any confidence you'll be able to pick up your form this week?"... I wish they could say "yeah we haven't touched a beer for 6 months... gotta get your priorities right... we're heading towards the wooden spoon, but that was a wakeup call... we're training harder than ever now... while other teams are out partying hard, we haven't touched a beer since Australia Day. We've been training harder than ever this season and are seeing results both on and off the field..."

                    I dunno... maybe not realistic, and I don't want to ruin their fun (if their only fun in the week is a few beers then maybe let them have it)... but they're professional athletes, and we all know alcohol decreases performance... also being PLASTERED the morning after a game's going to ruin your recovery. In a business where you need to squeeze every last bit out of your body, and then some more, I don't think the guys who are sitting on the wooden spoon can afford to go out getting plastered.

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                    Are there any footy players who don't drink?
                    Very few.

                    There are quite a few differences in the example that you set out.

                    Swimming is not a team sport, people who have played team sports in their life - especially either for the footy codes can relay the feeling of celebration after the win. You just want to get out and celebrate the win with your mates who have just put their body on the line for you. This is the drinking culture that everyone speaks of - it has been around since rugby league has existed.

                    Secondly, swimming stars don't enjoy the spotlight that most league players get. Girls flock to you, men admire you, for any man that is a good feeling and you want to be around that environment and unfortunately it goes hand in hand with drinking.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by BigMike View Post
                      No, what i am saying is if you want them to deprive themselves of the lifestyle that every teenager has, then pay them enough to compensate for that.

                      As for picking fights, when i was talking to him, one of the dipshits in my group kept calling out in the background - 'overrated' and 'Wayne's son' in the background obviously trying to agitate him. If i was Pearce i'd come up to him, and make sure he stops, but the kid simply said to me - 'I get that everywhere - what can you do ?'

                      As for the suggestion that he walks around the club trying to pick a fight, c'mon man, we both know that 99% of the time both parties have a case to answer for. Pearce cops it from dimwits on a message board njumerous times a day. How many more would he cop when said dimwits are out in the town drunk as **** ?

                      I have always said it - i'd hate to be a footballer. There are always people trying to pull you down to their level because they are obsiously envious of the fact that he is climbing in life.
                      I agree, I'd hate to be a footballer. But he's earning hundreds of thousands to put up with said ****wits calling him overrated or whatever. You don't start fights, I'm only repeating what I've seen with my own eyes. I can tell you right now, that night I witnessed none of them were the aggressors. In fact 3 of them he was just swaying around, bumped into them after which they told him respectfully to piss off and then he decided to have some words.

                      He is by all means allowed to go out have a few drinks with some mates, but more often than not he writes himself off, which can only end badly given the fishbowl existence footballers live in.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by BigMike View Post
                        Very few.

                        There are quite a few differences in the example that you set out.

                        Swimming is not a team sport, people who have played team sports in their life - especially either for the footy codes can relay the feeling of celebration after the win. You just want to get out and celebrate the win with your mates who have just put their body on the line for you. This is the drinking culture that everyone speaks of - it has been around since rugby league has existed.

                        Secondly, swimming stars don't enjoy the spotlight that most league players get. Girls flock to you, men admire you, for any man that is a good feeling and you want to be around that environment and unfortunately it goes hand in hand with drinking.
                        How about Tour De France athletes?

                        I know the winner is an individual, but it is a team effort..

                        Do you think if Team Bingo wins a stage they are all out on the piss..??

                        No, they are all getting blood transfusions so they can do it again...

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Pass the Ball View Post
                          How many teenagers do you know of that earn hundreds of thousands of dollars to do something they have dreamed of doing...???

                          That money become irrelevant when you need both of your knees replaced at the age of 50.

                          That money comes with injuries, constant training, dieting (foodwise), media spotlight, being nagged wherever you go, puts a target on your head on top of sponsor commitments, working with the kids, doing charity work.
                          Not only that but you sacrifice your standard of life for the rest of your life.

                          I do not care what anyone says, they do not get paid enough for what they have to do.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Johnny Bravo View Post
                            I agree, I'd hate to be a footballer. But he's earning hundreds of thousands to put up with said ****wits calling him overrated or whatever. You don't start fights, I'm only repeating what I've seen with my own eyes. I can tell you right now, that night I witnessed none of them were the aggressors. In fact 3 of them he was just swaying around, bumped into them after which they told him respectfully to piss off and then he decided to have some words.

                            He is by all means allowed to go out have a few drinks with some mates, but more often than not he writes himself off, which can only end badly given the fishbowl existence footballers live in.

                            No football player gets paid to put up with this. No one. They get payed to play football.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by BigMike View Post
                              That money become irrelevant when you need both of your knees replaced at the age of 50.

                              That money comes with injuries, constant training, dieting (foodwise), media spotlight, being nagged wherever you go, puts a target on your head on top of sponsor commitments, working with the kids, doing charity work.
                              Not only that but you sacrifice your standard of life for the rest of your life.

                              I do not care what anyone says, they do not get paid enough for what they have to do.
                              Sounds like a tragic life..

                              I wonder why there are any footballers prepared to play for money when you put it like that...

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by BigMike View Post
                                That money become irrelevant when you need both of your knees replaced at the age of 50.

                                That money comes with injuries, constant training, dieting (foodwise), media spotlight, being nagged wherever you go, puts a target on your head on top of sponsor commitments, working with the kids, doing charity work.
                                Not only that but you sacrifice your standard of life for the rest of your life.

                                I do not care what anyone says, they do not get paid enough for what they have to do.
                                I know it must be terrible earning $250k/year at 19. When most dream of earning that in the first 6 or 7 years of their professional life. For many the first 10.

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