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  • Originally posted by eddie View Post
    For those who are smarter than me and don't make themselves suffer by reading zero tackle................I should mention their editorial on Manlys stance.
    They claimed the only people who would object to the rainbow jersey are "old white men" ???????????
    Despite the fact that all the players who opted out are young pacific islanders.
    Typical trash people bring up these days.
    Zero tackle ... with zero intelligence and zero journalism !

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    • Originally posted by OMR View Post
      We’re a footy team and go out to play footy on the park. If we( the club) want to support some movement/ ideal , then do it through media, donations, fund raising events etc… DO NOT bring it on the field.
      Who was the last player excluded for their sexual persuasion or religious belief? Our sport is inclusive without the need to prove it through on field displays.
      Manly could’ve promoted their pride jerseys and out them
      up for sale without having players wear them, there was absolutely no need for it. Who was the genius that came up with the idea? And who was the idiot that rubber stamped it? Why not make their identity public? Why Hasler and DCE give the press conference? Why not management ?

      All I care about is the roosters winning and winning well, and beating the broncos, cowboys , Storm and rabbits ( all above us) and get into 5th or 4th if possible , and then go on a massive smashing run to win the premiership and make me rue the fact I chickened out when I was to place $100@ $31 on them to win it 3 weeks ago.
      I think the players standing down means that it's not totally inclusive though

      If the players are such sticklers to the scriptures how come they don't withdraw from games played on Sundays - after all that is the sabbath a day of rest and people should do no work

      Six days you shall labor and do all your work, [10] but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the LORD your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. [11] For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

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      • The Chooks should wear their Oxford st attire.

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        • Originally posted by King Salvo View Post

          If the players are such sticklers to the scriptures how come they don't withdraw from games played on Sundays - after all that is the sabbath a day of rest and people should do no work
          It's either because the actual Sabbath is supposed to be on Saturday (which it is), or possibly that all organised religious doctrine is a mess of contradiction, fallacy and pure BS (personal opinion).

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          • Originally posted by theGman View Post

            Yep, well said, couldn't agree more.
            Why manly dared to be different to other codes is bewildering.
            The Swans celebrate "alphabet differences" each year without tampering with the jersey. They simply market the round and place the pretty rainbow over their emblem and run through banner - SIMPLES!
            Thankyou Gman, they could make the game ball a coloured rainbow, if not the goal posts, surely there are different ways to demonstrate the commitment to the support of all peoples from different walks of life, so everyone is included, these poor Manly players are probably feeling very excluded for their cultural and religious beliefs today. Shame on you Manly.

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            • Originally posted by Rooster R View Post

              Thankyou Gman, they could make the game ball a coloured rainbow, if not the goal posts, surely there are different ways to demonstrate the commitment to the support of all peoples from different walks of life, so everyone is included, these poor Manly players are probably feeling very excluded for their cultural and religious beliefs today. Shame on you Manly.
              There was an easier way around this

              I think that if the message was about inclusion and diversity, it shouldn't have been limited to the Pride rainbow, it should be been representative of all marginalised communities including race, colour, religion and disabilities. How you do that without offending, I have no idea.

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              • Geez I love our coach.

                The great man has spoken...

                https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl...d232456f9a0513

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                • Originally posted by eddie View Post

                  You might well be right, but we can't entertain the idea of not trying on field to support a non-sports agenda.
                  We are all Roosters fans on here.
                  i was talking about giving up a try, not suggesting we don't try ...
                  we're wearing a jersey with a non-sports agenda tomorrow night - how is that different? should we not rally around mental health? and our anzac day jersey - should we get rid of that cos it's not sports related?
                  robbo said today he'd be happy for the roosters to wear a pride jersey in the future.

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                  • Originally posted by zac View Post

                    i was talking about giving up a try, not suggesting we don't try ...
                    we're wearing a jersey with a non-sports agenda tomorrow night - how is that different? should we not rally around mental health? and our anzac day jersey - should we get rid of that cos it's not sports related?
                    robbo said today he'd be happy for the roosters to wear a pride jersey in the future.
                    Giving up a try means they not trying to prevent Manly scoring.............I think its a silly idea.
                    I don't understand what you mean about our jersey being non-sports , but can assure you it is very different from gifting them a try.

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                    • Originally posted by zac View Post

                      i was talking about giving up a try, not suggesting we don't try ...
                      we're wearing a jersey with a non-sports agenda tomorrow night - how is that different? should we not rally around mental health? and our anzac day jersey - should we get rid of that cos it's not sports related?
                      robbo said today he'd be happy for the roosters to wear a pride jersey in the future.
                      Can we stop this rubbish about giving a rival team who is fighting like us to get into the 8 a "give away try". Just nonsense.

                      Their jersey issue is their problem & not ours. It's not our problem who they put opposite us. If they want to derail their season due to stupid management decisions then that's their problem.

                      I'm sure giving up a try would go down fantastically with the NRL & betting agencies.

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                      • Originally posted by eddie View Post

                        Giving up a try means they not trying to prevent Manly scoring.............I think its a silly idea.
                        I don't understand what you mean about our jersey being non-sports , but can assure you it is very different from gifting them a try.
                        manly can be criticised for not consulting their players sooner but they're right to play with a jersey that promotes inclusiveness. i don't know what the nrl's directive was but manly were also right not to walk away from the jersey this week and, esp given a thursday game, they were right not to pressure the players to play. the stakes are high - a loss this week will probably cost them their season - and manly should be applauded for sticking to their principles. i respect their position and - it won't happen - i'd be happy if our club acknowledged that manly have made a huge statement here by us conceding a try on the first play of the game as recognition that we are the unwitting beneficiaries of manly promoting inclusiveness. but i'm obviously not saying we shouldn't try (i said in that post that i hope we win and win by plenty). it won't happen but if we voluntarily conceded the first try it would take the emotion out of the game.

                        like manly, and like on anzac day, we're wearing a jersey with a non-sports related message, promoting better mental health. why aren't you as upset about that as you are about the pride jersey?

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                        • Originally posted by zac View Post

                          i was talking about giving up a try, not suggesting we don't try ...
                          we're wearing a jersey with a non-sports agenda tomorrow night - how is that different? should we not rally around mental health? and our anzac day jersey - should we get rid of that cos it's not sports related?
                          robbo said today he'd be happy for the roosters to wear a pride jersey in the future.
                          I hope he doesn’t go up that path.
                          Trust me if the Islander boys from Manly won’t play in that jersey then the Islander boys from the Roosters wouldn’t either.

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                          • Originally posted by Tommy Smith View Post
                            Geez I love our coach.

                            The great man has spoken...

                            https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl...d232456f9a0513
                            Robbo should worry about our team & players & stay out of Manly's affairs. They aren't his players & shouldn't be lecturing them on what they should or shouldn't believe in.

                            Keep out of the headlines & play sport & avoid issues which divide people. The Roosters are a sports team not a political party.

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                            • Originally posted by Eggspert View Post

                              Can we stop this rubbish about giving a rival team who is fighting like us to get into the 8 a "give away try". Just nonsense.

                              Their jersey issue is their problem & not ours. It's not our problem who they put opposite us. If they want to derail their season due to stupid management decisions then that's their problem.

                              I'm sure giving up a try would go down fantastically with the NRL & betting agencies.
                              protect the betting agencies? i don't have a problem with the nrl taking money from begging agencies but i don't have a problem with them being screwed either. fair's fair - that's what they do for a living.

                              but i don't agree that manly should be penalised for taking a sensible stand on inclusiveness. yes, we want to win and win big but what's wrong with acknowledging the stand that manly have taken on this issue? give em a try, take the emotion out of the game, and then play like our season is on the line (which it is).




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                              • Originally posted by Mickie Lane View Post

                                I hope he doesn’t go up that path.
                                Trust me if the Islander boys from Manly won’t play in that jersey then the Islander boys from the Roosters wouldn’t either.
                                i'm not going to trust you on this one michael. i'm going to trust robbo to consult with the team and get them on board. wearing that sort of jersey, without a manifesto, can be interpreted in different ways - why can't it be seen by people who are religious that god loves everyone including gays?

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