The team needs to start from scratch

[stsae]

Without Freddy we were rubbish during those years. We hardly won when he was out injured and when he retired we missed the semis 2005,06,07. Then we signed Mason and we made the semis in 08, We came last in 2009, then we signed Carney and we made the gf. Carney leaves and we are crap again. Notice anything?

Yep we lack that character and on field Juice that those blokes are able to provide. The key.

And I agree 100% mate.

Bwaiff never had it and neither did Mini.

Baloney, dunno. $BW I reckon he has it.

[Ray Stehr]

Yep we lack that character and on field Juice that those blokes are able to provide. The key.

And I agree 100% mate.

Bwaiff never had it and neither did Mini.

Baloney, dunno. $BW I reckon he has it.

Exactly mate and yet there are imbos on here who want to rely purely on youth.

[stsae]

Exactly mate and yet there are imbos on here who want to rely purely on youth.

We have too much youth and not enough quality experience.

The Carntey expirement while great in 2010 really farked us over. Just when we started to show something again, he falls back into his fragile eggshell mind disease.

I'm with ya mate, $BW has that thing to bring us the holy grail.

Hope it happens.

[Guest]

Without Freddy we were rubbish during those years. We hardly won when he was out injured and when he retired we missed the semis 2005,06,07. Then we signed Mason and we made the semis in 08, We came last in 2009, then we signed Carney and we made the gf. Carney leaves and we are crap again. Notice anything?

Sure do, you revise history to suit your bullshit.

We had Mason in 2009 when we won the spoon.
We had Carney in 2011 when we missed the finals.
And we had Fittler all those years and failed to win jack shit.

You assert that we need better players to be a success but fail to acknowledge the times we had those better players and were still shit.

Chook.

[Ray Stehr]

Sure do, you revise history to suit your bullshit.

We had Mason in 2009 when we won the spoon.
We had Carney in 2011 when we missed the finals.
And we had Fittler all those years and failed to win jack shit.

You assert that we need better players to be a success but fail to acknowledge the times we had those better players and were still shit.

Chook.

Just face the fact that you have NFI.

[Guest]

The guys that touch the ball the most for us Pearce & Friend & I have been saying this for a while, have no vision, neither can read a game 1 or 2 rucks ahead & neither has the ability to put pressure on teams with repeat sets of six.

Believe me we will not make the 8 with those two at 1/2 & hooker.

I dont dislike either of them but 1 of them has to go. For me it would be Friend. Pearce to dummy half interchanging with Mitchell. Mortimer & Anasta in the halves.

[chook 56]

The guys that touch the ball the most for us Pearce & Friend & I have been saying this for a while, have no vision, neither can read a game 1 or 2 rucks ahead & neither has the ability to put pressure on teams with repeat sets of six.

Believe me we will not make the 8 with those two at 1/2 & hooker.

I dont dislike either of them but 1 of them has to go. For me it would be Friend. Pearce to dummy half interchanging with Mitchell. Mortimer & Anasta in the halves.

You had my attention until you mentioned leaving Braith in the halves combo.

[Guest]

Just face the fact that you have NFI.

lol, stinging comeback. Ignorance is your best defence you farking retard, especially when you're proven wrong...again.

Chook.

[Ray Stehr]

lol, stinging comeback. Ignorance is your best defence you farking retard, especially when you're proven wrong...again.

Chook.

You're a bore.

[Rocky Rhodes]

Where are your eyes John???

I clearly wrote developed MOSTLY. You quoted it in fact.

Add Kidwell who was also a key contributor in 2002 as that's half the squad brought not bred. So half is not most backwards.

Point is in 2002 we had the right balance of bred and brought, and also between youth and experience. This current lot only has 2 brought (Anasta and Morts) and is horribly inexperienced. Even talented players is in the minority.

[stsae]

The guys that touch the ball the most for us Pearce & Friend & I have been saying this for a while, have no vision, neither can read a game 1 or 2 rucks ahead & neither has the ability to put pressure on teams with repeat sets of six.

Believe me we will not make the 8 with those two at 1/2 & hooker.

I dont dislike either of them but 1 of them has to go. For me it would be Friend. Pearce to dummy half interchanging with Mitchell. Mortimer & Anasta in the halves.

Didn't we make a GF in 2010 with Pearce and Friendly???

Not that I totally disagree with your sentiments mate, I just believe a really good 1 and 6 would be more than enough to cover for our 7 and 9s weaknesses.

[Rocky Rhodes]

Sure do, you revise history to suit your bullshit.

We had Mason in 2009 when we won the spoon.
We had Carney in 2011 when we missed the finals.
And we had Fittler all those years and failed to win jack shit.

You assert that we need better players to be a success but fail to acknowledge the times we had those better players and were still shit.

Chook.

lol.....more evidence that you are utterly mindnumbingly clueless. Our only premiership and a world club championship and 10 yrs of excellence in the last 30 odd years is NOTHING?

The fact that you call Mason a better player speaks volumes. Are you related to rob1crap by any chance. Talk about dumb and dumber...

[stsae]

Add Kidwell who was also a key contributor in 2002 as that's half the squad brought not bred. So half is not most backwards.

Point is in 2002 we had the right balance of bred and brought, and also between youth and experience. This current lot only has 2 brought (Anasta and Morts) and is horribly inexperienced. Even talented players is in the minority.

I raise you a Toddy Byrne and a CrissCrosseyed my man.

But I agree with your point, it's not all about breeding.

For us we badly need a few experienced classy players with that something we lack, the key.

Baloneys a start, $BW would be great, I'd take a Mozz for a year and it would be great to snag a classy FB IMO.

[Guest]

lol.....more evidence that you are utterly mindnumbingly clueless. Our only premiership and a world club championship in the last 30 odd years is NOTHING?

The fact that you call Mason a better player speaks volumes. Are you related to rob1crap by any chance. Talk about dumb and dumber...

I'll explain it to you in simpler terms, you are after all Rocky Rhodes and words with more than 2 syllables confuse you I know.

We had Fittler for more years than the one GF and WCC win and we didn't win anything in those years. Do you get it now?

Chook.

[stsae]

Sure do, you revise history to suit your bullshit.

We had Mason in 2009 when we won the spoon.
We had Carney in 2011 when we missed the finals.
And we had Fittler all those years and failed to win jack shit.

You assert that we need better players to be a success but fail to acknowledge the times we had those better players and were still shit.

Chook.

You must agree Chook we need some class in the 1, 6 and another experienced pig at least mate???

We have Baloney covered, it's a start, $BW would be a massive plus and I'd take Mozz as a Mullos type guest stint. FB is what we lack IMO.

Mason did his knee late in 08, he was a passenger in 09. Carntey played like a gimp last year, he went out with a whimper. Freddo busted his arse for this club, I don't know what happened in those GFs 03-04 especially. It still does my head in TBH.

I finally got Coggy almost positive, don't kill the vibe duuuuuuude.