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  • A glaring weakness

    The short kick off. Quite a few mentioned it last year. It reappeared today.

    It's overlooked in a 32-16 win. But if we'd lost 12-16?

  • #2
    Which one? My brain's struggling to remember the context but there were... two of them were they? Remind me.

    Last week (or the one before) I thought we did a solid short kick-off and Suaalii got it back.

    I feel it's relevant to note that we were always up by a couple of tries in this game and both teams' choices may have been different if the tables were turned
    Last edited by ism22; 08-13-2022, 10:33 PM.

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    • #3
      It's a lottery more than an art.

      The thing I want us to improve is goal line defence. Much better today but I just feel very nervous when a team is attacking 10M out.

      But special mention to Walker today. He tackled Leilua on a couple one on ones on the line.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by ism22 View Post
        Which one? My brain's struggling to remember the context but there were... two of them were they? Remind me.

        Last week (or the one before) I thought we did a solid short kick-off and Suaalii got it back.

        I feel it's relevant to note that we were always up by a couple of tries in this game and both teams' choices may have been different if the tables were turned
        The second half, the Cows got it off us pretty easily, when they did the short kick off.

        We tried one after we had been under the pump for a while and we were no where near it.

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        • #5
          Out of curiosity, in RL, are we allowed to lift players up a la Rugby Union lineouts?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Bruce Pickett View Post
            Out of curiosity, in RL, are we allowed to lift players up a la Rugby Union lineouts?
            Can't see why not? Guess you'd need to be in position and know where the ball's going though. Also, you'd take-out 3 defenders if they got the ball.

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            • #7
              We are leading and we drop them out short. Why???

              Do we take a 5th tackle kick inside our 30 as a chip or a short midfield bomb? No. So why do it from a dropout?

              It’s a game about field position so get the bastard as far upfield as possible!
              FVCK CANCER

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              • #8
                I cannot believe they have been saying the Walker brothers are hacks, they started it in the Qld cup with Ipswich.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Bruce Pickett View Post
                  Out of curiosity, in RL, are we allowed to lift players up a la Rugby Union lineouts?
                  It must not be allowable one would say as if it was teams would have been doing this by now.

                  It would possibly be an "obstruction" type of penalty in denying an opponent an opportunity to gather the ball on a one on one situation when other players are involved in such a move.

                  Not similar to the above but other instances where other same team players cannot be involved in certain plays

                  If a player is tackled short of the line/held up his team mates can't then push him over the try line to score a try

                  They later banned the flying wedge that Parramatta used in the 1976 Grandfinal against Manly for safety reasons- The Flying Wedge was like a Rugby Maul for penalty taps near the line - they would charge at the try line with the ball carrier at the front of the flying wedge.

                  I seen the flying wedge used in some Brisbane Comp games where the teams scored - not sure how Parramatta didn't score using the flying wedge that day.

                  Not the Parra Flying wedge but an example of it from a Brisbane Comp game

                  Last edited by King Salvo; 08-14-2022, 02:24 AM.

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                  • #10
                    I like the short drop out. You win you get the ball if you lose you are defending 10 metres out instead of 30 on the first tackle. It’s worth the risk occasionally.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Thirteen View Post
                      I like the short drop out. You win you get the ball if you lose you are defending 10 metres out instead of 30 on the first tackle. It’s worth the risk occasionally.
                      Stops those big forwards getting a quick play the ball 20 - 25 out ftom the line Allowinh you to have your line set
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                      • #12
                        i saw a stat recently which said that short line drop outs were more common this season and that we were the best team at defending them

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                        • #13
                          I don’t see the point of a short line drop out when you are way ahead in points. The roosters used it yesterday whereas with a longer kick with our defence the better option.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Thirteen View Post
                            I like the short drop out. You win you get the ball if you lose you are defending 10 metres out instead of 30 on the first tackle. It’s worth the risk occasionally.
                            So do I, I think it was Des Hasler who started introducing it on a regular basis and as you mentioned it's easier to defend 10 metres out when your defence is up in the face of the attackers rather than further out.
                            We have Toups and Suaalii who are both so good under the high ball to catch them so it's worth a punt.

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                            • #15
                              Been saying for years now I would make EVERY drop out and kick off a contest for possession...short and high, much practised.

                              It's gradually creeping in. It's a big blow to the attacking team to lose that advantage.
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