V'Landys vitriol

[King Salvo]

So you would be happy to never see two Sydney teams in a grand final ever again?

You can see two Sydney Teams in the Conference Grand Final and a Sydney Team in the Conference Winners "Superbowl" though.

Alternatively you can have a cross over Conference Final series with no guarantee of any Sydney Team being in the Grand final let alone two.

The beauty of the two conference is that teams will play the same teams the same number of times - each team in their conference twice and teams in the other conference once


If they add 3 new teams for 20 teams

4 divisions of 5 teams - play each team once and teams in your division twice - 23 game regular season

Finals top 3 from each division- cross over division - 5 week finals series

or

Top 2 from each division and 2 wild card places - 2 winners of 3 vs 3

[trewhella]

I think he is a builder not a destroyer.
I hear from a couple of sources that he treats his staff poorly if you are not in his immediate click.
Major tightass with company funds to the point where it becomes tyrannical.

[King Salvo]

I seriously doubt that anyone else would have had the guts and drive to get the comp going again amidst the crazy lockdown over-reach. I genuinely think he saved people from more serious mental health issues by having "something" to engage with and follow.

The amount of work involved was staggering in relocating and restarting the comp notwithstanding the costs involved

* Dealing with 3 levels of Government ( Local Government/ State Governments/Federal Governments)

* The Hubs - Grounds for playing and training.

* Accommodation/Meals etc for players /coaches and support staff plus their families- Internet -Education access etc

* Renegotiate the broadcast deal as channel 9 for instance would have been just as happy if no comp with the money they would save,

* Quarantine places for players that clubs had to call on as injury replacements.

* Etc Etc

If no comp no money for the league or clubs from the broadcast deal /sponsors/crowds etc - clubs would still have to pay players/coaches and support staff.

[Johnny Brass]

Aussie Rules is a far more national comp than ours but the Vics would never let the big dance be played anywhere but the gee.
The game started here and the grand final should never be played anywhere else unless we have extenuating circumstances like covid.
He can stick his 6 again up his backside as far as I'm concerned, i think he's overstaying his welcome as head honcho.

[Tennessee Tornado]

By the sound of things he’s losing the poker game

penrith may lose their stadium and a couple of teams their centre of excellence funding.

Old pvl may have bitten off more than he can chew

[King Salvo]

Aussie Rules is a far more national comp than ours but the Vics would never let the big dance be played anywhere but the gee.
The game started here and the grand final should never be played anywhere else unless we have extenuating circumstances like covid.
He can stick his 6 again up his backside as far as I'm concerned, i think he's overstaying his welcome as head honcho.

The MCG Capacity is 100, 024 and the next biggest ground suitable for AFL is Optus with a capacity of 60,000- Be a lot of lost revenue if they moved the AFL Grand Final from the MCG other than in 2020 when due to Covid it was played at the Gabba which has a capacity of 42.000.

NRL - Accor capacity is 83,500 -Suncorp is 52,500 - Alliance 45,500

So one figures that the MCG would be a strong candidate to host an NRL Grand Final having hosted SOO games. - Optus a possibility too even with a 60,000 capacity as it too has hosted SOO games

Of course with the two conference system when and if they add an 18th team - Sydney conference 9 teams / Non Sydney conference 9 teams

* Conference grand finals would be played in Sydney and Brisbane

* The conference winners super bowl type game is a game they can put out to tender - this would be played 2 weeks after the conference grand finals - Put the icing on the cake as they say with the revenue and interest that game will generate.

[milanja]

You can see two Sydney Teams in the Conference Grand Final and a Sydney Team in the Conference Winners "Superbowl" though.

Alternatively you can have a cross over Conference Final series with no guarantee of any Sydney Team being in the Grand final let alone two.

The beauty of the two conference is that teams will play the same teams the same number of times - each team in their conference twice and teams in the other conference once


If they add 3 new teams for 20 teams

4 divisions of 5 teams - play each team once and teams in your division twice - 23 game regular season

Finals top 3 from each division- cross over division - 5 week finals series

or

Top 2 from each division and 2 wild card places - 2 winners of 3 vs 3

The conference game isn’t a grand final though, and nobody considers it to be.

I watch most of the American sports, nobody cares about winning their conference final if the lose the superbowl.

[redwhiteblue]

The amount of work involved was staggering in relocating and restarting the comp notwithstanding the costs involved

* Dealing with 3 levels of Government ( Local Government/ State Governments/Federal Governments)

* The Hubs - Grounds for playing and training.

* Accommodation/Meals etc for players /coaches and support staff plus their families- Internet -Education access etc

* Renegotiate the broadcast deal as channel 9 for instance would have been just as happy if no comp with the money they would save,

* Quarantine places for players that clubs had to call on as injury replacements.

* Etc Etc

If no comp no money for the league or clubs from the broadcast deal /sponsors/crowds etc - clubs would still have to pay players/coaches and support staff.

That said, we have a perfect playing record in Toowoomba and Mackay I think too..those games were a joy to watch..like Jack said, imagine if we didn't have those games to watch..those townships had a ball having the NRL competition come to visit...the logistics of arranging everything you posted above would painstaking and mind boggling during a pandemic..

[The Lip]

Vlandys did a great job over covid. A lot of us forget that because we don't like what he is doing since.

We needed that dictator type of rule to get us through that. If it were left to any other previous admin it wouldn't have happened.

We don't need it anymore however. He is a guy that knows little about the game making decisions about how the game is officiated and hence played and actually changing the fabric of the game. Most of us agree those changes are not good for the game and turning it into something else. Shit I turned away from rugby union 25 years ago because the on field officials were ruining the game. Unfortunately I feel the same is happening in NRL these days due to the ambiguity of the six again etc. in Rugby you ask your mate 20 times a game what was that for? In NRL today it's the same regarding rulings. Why does this guy have such a say on how the game is played - he is not qualified for that. Stick to the Admin PVL and keep out of the papers. He is an egomaniac who doesn't know when to stop and can't admit a mistake let alone undo one.

How I would love to see a 4-0 Roosters v Manly style game again - unfortunately we will never see this type of game that typified RL in its formative years. Sure we see lots of tries lots of 32/20 style scores but RL prides itself on defence as much as attack - probably more - well sorry but we have lost that now as the six again rule makes it impossible and leaves far too many important decisions in games left completely unscrutinised with nobody held to account.

[Renman]

Vlandys did a great job over covid. A lot of us forget that because we don't like what he is doing since.

We needed that dictator type of rule to get us through that. If it were left to any other previous admin it wouldn't have happened.

We don't need it anymore however. He is a guy that knows little about the game making decisions about how the game is officiated and hence played and actually changing the fabric of the game. Most of us agree those changes are not good for the game and turning it into something else. Shit I turned away from rugby union 25 years ago because the on field officials were ruining the game. Unfortunately I feel the same is happening in NRL these days due to the ambiguity of the six again etc. in Rugby you ask your mate 20 times a game what was that for? In NRL today it's the same regarding rulings. Why does this guy have such a say on how the game is played - he is not qualified for that. Stick to the Admin PVL and keep out of the papers. He is an egomaniac who doesn't know when to stop and can't admit a mistake let alone undo one.

How I would love to see a 4-0 Roosters v Manly style game again - unfortunately we will never see this type of game that typified RL in its formative years. Sure we see lots of tries lots of 32/20 style scores but RL prides itself on defence as much as attack - probably more - well sorry but we have lost that now as the six again rule makes it impossible and leaves far too many important decisions in games left completely unscrutinised with nobody held to account.

Could not agree more. Well articulated.

[Tommy Smith]

Is Vlandys the Churchill of the NRL?

A great leader for a time of unprecedented crisis but an absolute spud during peacetime.

[Headless Chook]

Vlandys did a great job over covid. A lot of us forget that because we don't like what he is doing since.

We needed that dictator type of rule to get us through that. If it were left to any other previous admin it wouldn't have happened.

We don't need it anymore however. He is a guy that knows little about the game making decisions about how the game is officiated and hence played and actually changing the fabric of the game. Most of us agree those changes are not good for the game and turning it into something else. Shit I turned away from rugby union 25 years ago because the on field officials were ruining the game. Unfortunately I feel the same is happening in NRL these days due to the ambiguity of the six again etc. in Rugby you ask your mate 20 times a game what was that for? In NRL today it's the same regarding rulings. Why does this guy have such a say on how the game is played - he is not qualified for that. Stick to the Admin PVL and keep out of the papers. He is an egomaniac who doesn't know when to stop and can't admit a mistake let alone undo one.

How I would love to see a 4-0 Roosters v Manly style game again - unfortunately we will never see this type of game that typified RL in its formative years. Sure we see lots of tries lots of 32/20 style scores but RL prides itself on defence as much as attack - probably more - well sorry but we have lost that now as the six again rule makes it impossible and leaves far too many important decisions in games left completely unscrutinised with nobody held to account.

You still see these games. The refs put the whistle away in the finals and let the players slug it out. Penrith's last 4 results last season were 10-16, 8-6, 10-6, 14-12. You just have to put up with all the crap in the lead up

[The Lip]

You still see these games. The refs put the whistle away in the finals and let the players slug it out. Penrith's last 4 results last season were 10-16, 8-6, 10-6, 14-12. You just have to put up with all the crap in the lead up

Whilst I agree the football is officiated better in the finals it's still not the same - just like 10-16 or 14-12 isnt the same as 4-0 but I do agree finals is better in terms of over officiating.

Why does it have to be that way though - 25 rounds reffed one way 4 weeks of finals another

[eddie]

I still don't understand why the tax payer is expected to pay for an upgrade on privately owned property.

[King Salvo]

The conference game isn’t a grand final though, and nobody considers it to be.

I watch most of the American sports, nobody cares about winning their conference final if the lose the superbowl.

Not sure you can say nobody cares as they certainly publicise the number of division and league pennants teams have won in Baseball for instance

It is a GF to determine the Conference winners to play in the superbowl like game - The runner up in the superbowl type conference winners game can at least say they were a conference winner - runners up in NRL GF have nothing to show for reaching the GF - basically deemed the same as the other 14 teams that didn't play in GF