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  • #31
    Did you hear that buffoon PVL defending the decision. That cretin said that the NRL are looking at these suspension issues from the fans perspective, and they don’t want to rob the fans of stars etc etc. This is not a laughing matter. This is incompetence at best and corruption at worst. The NRL’s bias is on show. Legal action is a potential course of action by other clubs being disadvantaged by this appalling decision.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Grant Hedger View Post
      Did you hear that buffoon PVL defending the decision. That cretin said that the NRL are looking at these suspension issues from the fans perspective, and they don’t want to rob the fans of stars etc etc. This is not a laughing matter. This is incompetence at best and corruption at worst. The NRL’s bias is on show. Legal action is a potential course of action by other clubs being disadvantaged by this appalling decision.
      He's not a big enough man to admit he got it wrong. He's lived his entire professional career surrounded by yes-men.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Grant Hedger View Post
        Did you hear that buffoon PVL defending the decision. That cretin said that the NRL are looking at these suspension issues from the fans perspective, and they don’t want to rob the fans of stars etc etc. This is not a laughing matter. This is incompetence at best and corruption at worst. The NRL’s bias is on show. Legal action is a potential course of action by other clubs being disadvantaged by this appalling decision.
        If Mr. V'Landys wants what's best for the game then ditch the bunker for anything but foul play, bring in a tracker in the ball to fix the parallax error and bring back the pocket referee.

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        • #34
          I think he’s been listening to Gould again. This has Gus’s fingerprints all over it.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Grant Hedger View Post
            Did you hear that buffoon PVL defending the decision. That cretin said that the NRL are looking at these suspension issues from the fans perspective, and they don’t want to rob the fans of stars etc etc. This is not a laughing matter. This is incompetence at best and corruption at worst. The NRL’s bias is on show. Legal action is a potential course of action by other clubs being disadvantaged by this appalling decision.
            The same man is telling fans not to boo Latrell because he’s a role model for indigenous youth, fearing that they won’t play league. He’s a bit choosey when looking at things “from a fan’s perspective”. That’s twice in as many days he’s involved himself in matters relating to teams playing in the finals this week. Since when does the Chairman involve himself in this stuff? I find it troubling.

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            • #36
              If vlandys is looking at it from a fans perspective and wants stars to play he better suspend Collins further 3 games to next year immediately.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Grant Hedger View Post
                Did you hear that buffoon PVL defending the decision. That cretin said that the NRL are looking at these suspension issues from the fans perspective, and they don’t want to rob the fans of stars etc etc. This is not a laughing matter. This is incompetence at best and corruption at worst. The NRL’s bias is on show. Legal action is a potential course of action by other clubs being disadvantaged by this appalling decision.
                He's not a 'star' anyway? Careful what I say as his brother's with us and has the same hairstyle. But like... taking him outta the Riff for the finals would show how SERIOUS assault CONVICTIONS (nor allegations) are taken by the NRL.

                Collins is a bona fide star (plays Origin) and we've been robbed of him. This didn't seem to be a relevant factor in his punishment.

                May? He's lucky the guy didn't bump his head on the flowerpot on the way down and end up a 1 punch casualty as there's mandatory prison sentences for that. Apparently the fact his head missed the flower pot and he got up like a champ means the NRL views this as being similar to a careless high tackle while up by 1 point and closely defending a tryline. In fact less serious as he got to choose when to serve it.
                Last edited by ism22; 09-08-2022, 11:01 AM.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by King Salvo View Post

                  It was Collins third similar offence - dangerous contact

                  3rd Offences- Dangerous Contact

                  Grade 1 - 2 matches ($ 3000)
                  Grade 2 - 4 matches (3 early plea)
                  Grade 3 - 5 matches ( 4 early plea)

                  The grading is the only debatable point - It was more than a grade 1 as an injury was sustained which is taken into account nowadays.

                  Patrick Carrigans Hip Drop on Jackson Hastings was referred directly to the Judiciary where he received a 4 game suspension the same as Collins who was charged with a grade 3 and took the early plea.

                  One would have thought if Carrigan was referred to the judicary he would have received a longer suspension than the maximum for a grade 3 of 4 weeks (if the player takes the early plea)- so in the Judiciary minds Carrigan and Collins hip drops were ruled the same as far as foul play was concerned for matches to be suspended for?.

                  The NRL judiciary also rightly or wrongly takes into account any injuries sustained as a result of foul play which opens a can of worms - Tom Eisenhuth (Storm) sustained a syndesmosis season ending injury and Jackson Hasting a season ending fibula fracture which one assumes would also put him out of contention for the RLWC - England

                  Earlier in the year - Tyrell Fuimaono (Dragons) did a hip drop on Haze Dunster(Parramatta) who sustained season ending PCL/MCL/ACL injuries as a result - I think Fuimaono received a 5 or 7 weeks suspension -

                  In such circumstances should Fuimaono have been suspended for the season if injuries sustained as a result of foul play are taken into account?- Opens a can of worms as I mentioned above

                  An interesting side note though is Dunster is going out with Fuimaono's Sister ( 6 year relationship) who also plays NRLW with the Dragons

                  https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl...4a7ea945a72dfc
                  Who really believes in this "hip drop" crap? Whose hip is dropping? Take the Collins tackle. Now imagine a Storm player had broken free and Collins turned, gave chase, launched himself at the Storm player's legs and brought him to the ground. It's the same tackle. But everyone would say, "What a great cover tackle from Collins!"

                  But in the alternate universe that our leaders live in, it's not the same tackle and it's very dangerous.

                  Poppycock. The level of risk to the player with the ball is the same in both instances.

                  You risk a broken leg or damaged knees in every tackle -- the tackler and the one being tackled.

                  Next year it'll all be forgotten and they'll obsess over some other innocuous tackle. In the meantime, Lindsey Collins misses out on the semi finals because of the whims of a couple corporate suits who wouldn't know their arsehole from a hole in the ground.

                  Look, I'm a dinosaur, I get it. I like my footy rough. I like a bloodbath. I like players deliberately trying to hurt other players when they tackle them -- afterall, I thought that was the whole point of tackling them? Yes, there are lines you don't cross. Gouging. Elbows to the head. Speer tackles. But everything else is fair game, in my book.

                  We either play a body contact sport or we don't.


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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Tom Verlaine's Ghost View Post

                    Who really believes in this "hip drop" crap? Whose hip is dropping? Take the Collins tackle. Now imagine a Storm player had broken free and Collins turned, gave chase, launched himself at the Storm player's legs and brought him to the ground. It's the same tackle. But everyone would say, "What a great cover tackle from Collins!"

                    But in the alternate universe that our leaders live in, it's not the same tackle and it's very dangerous.

                    Poppycock. The level of risk to the player with the ball is the same in both instances.

                    You risk a broken leg or damaged knees in every tackle -- the tackler and the one being tackled.

                    Next year it'll all be forgotten and they'll obsess over some other innocuous tackle. In the meantime, Lindsey Collins misses out on the semi finals because of the whims of a couple corporate suits who wouldn't know their arsehole from a hole in the ground.

                    Look, I'm a dinosaur, I get it. I like my footy rough. I like a bloodbath. I like players deliberately trying to hurt other players when they tackle them -- afterall, I thought that was the whole point of tackling them? Yes, there are lines you don't cross. Gouging. Elbows to the head. Speer tackles. But everything else is fair game, in my book.

                    We either play a body contact sport or we don't.
                    IMO it's just a fad.

                    I get that if you're taking out their legs from behind and trying to hyper-extend their knees in the process (from behind while they are already held) then it's a d!ck move.

                    Collins just went and held onto the guy's thigh so that they could take him down more quickly though. His knees weren't crushed, but his syndesmosis (totally unrelated to his 'hip dropping) flared up so he went down in pain.

                    4 Weeks is absolute bull.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Mickie Lane View Post
                      It doesn’t matter so long as the Chooks win.
                      Yes it does matter as it affects the whole integrity of the competition, regardless whether it affects the roosters or not. If you love rugby league you should be worried by decisions such as this. Where does it end?

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                      • #41
                        "Why penalise the Penrith fans"?
                        V'landys defends NRL over May punishment.


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                        Says it all.
                        A broom must be swept thru the NRL...or it will be compromised forevermore over this.
                        Clear bias.
                        Clear playing favourites.
                        Or that's what it appears.
                        Justice must be seen to be done.
                        The NRL is compromised over this.
                        Seems the club that matters most and the fans who matter most to the NRL are Panthers.
                        Sweep the broom or be condemned forever.
                        Sweep the broom or be ridiculed forever.
                        Where are the ARL Commissioners, they're presiding over this.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by OMR View Post

                          Yes it does matter as it affects the whole integrity of the competition, regardless whether it affects the roosters or not. If you love rugby league you should be worried by decisions such as this. Where does it end?
                          Exactly.
                          100% exactly!

                          After this the competition has no integrity.
                          No doubt many league fans have a nasty taste in their mouths now.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Grant Hedger View Post
                            Did you hear that buffoon PVL defending the decision. That cretin said that the NRL are looking at these suspension issues from the fans perspective, and they don’t want to rob the fans of stars etc etc. This is not a laughing matter. This is incompetence at best and corruption at worst. The NRL’s bias is on show. Legal action is a potential course of action by other clubs being disadvantaged by this appalling decision.
                            Indeed.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Mickie Lane View Post
                              It doesn’t matter so long as the Chooks win.
                              What if it was Cleary or JFH or Koroisau or Kikau? Why are the roosters fans being penalised for Collins suspension or any if the other top 8 teams.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Tom Verlaine's Ghost View Post

                                He's not a big enough man to admit he got it wrong. He's lived his entire professional career surrounded by yes-men.
                                I think that's right. His nonsense around "Why penalise the Penrith fans for an indiscretion the player did?"

                                What? Every fan gets "penalised" by not seeing the player play for their team whenever ANYONE gets suspended.

                                What is he even taking about?

                                Why not delay Lindsay's penalty until next year so us fans aren't "penalised"?

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