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  • #46
    Originally posted by Eggspert View Post

    No Robbo won't be coaching for as long as he wants.

    He will be based on his results like everyone else. He has gathered enough credit for 3 GF's in 7yrs but the last 3yrs of not even making a preliminary final is eating those credits up.

    He can't hang around in some comfort zone without better results in the future especially with the playing talent we have.
    You obviously haven't heard Nick Politis speak about him then

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    • #47
      We need more depth to cover injuries and suspensions can’t see that at present Momoroski and Hutchinson are not the answer for the backs hopefully there are guys coming through that can put pressure on positions or we will just have the same as this year

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Inflictor View Post

        Fantasy is bullsh!t.
        I'd much rather use the VB Hard Earned index as a guide to how good a player is going.
        I can't wait for it to come up around half time.
        As I said I don’t do fantasy… I have no interest in the game itself… but I am aware of the number of meaningful statistics they use to determine a player’s score

        How do they compile the VB Index do you know? it’s a mystery to me

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Les Tricolores View Post

          As I said I don’t do fantasy… I have no interest in the game itself… but I am aware of the number of meaningful statistics they use to determine a player’s score

          How do they compile the VB Index do you know? it’s a mystery to me
          I have no idea and no interest in either.

          Getting 15 points for a try (or whatever it is) when many times it is just a catch and put down is hardly something that can be used to how well a player is performing.

          But I did like the Moneyball movie.

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          • #50
            Top 30 next year?


            1. J. Tedesco
            2. D. Toops
            3. R. Toia
            4. J. Manu
            5. J. Suaalii
            6. L. Keary
            7. S. Walker
            8. JWH
            9. B. Smith
            10. L. Collins
            11. A. Crichton
            12. N Butcher
            13. V. Radley

            14. C. Watson
            15. E Butcher
            16. T. May
            17. M. Lodge (?)

            18. R. Atoni
            19. F. Baker
            20. J. Wong
            21. N. Whyte
            22. S Smith
            23. J Paulo
            24. X. Va'a
            25. J. Swann
            26. P. Momorski
            27. B. Smith
            28. S. Tupouniua
            29. A. Keighran
            30. D. Hutchinson

            31. T. Hau Tapuha
            32. V. Karawalevu
            33. T. Carr
            34. T. Moriarty
            35. E. Roberts




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            • #51
              Originally posted by Inflictor View Post

              I have no idea and no interest in either.

              Getting 15 points for a try (or whatever it is) when many times it is just a catch and put down is hardly something that can be used to how well a player is performing.

              But I did like the Moneyball movie.
              So why do you like the Index so much… because it reminds you it’s time to have another beer?

              Of course some tries are random… didn’t Nat Butcher score a hat trick? when do you think he’s going to do that again?

              But there are many other statistics that go into the final metric as well… and players are generally rated against players in their own position in case you’re confused… wingers are naturally going to score the most tries aye?

              It’s both objective and subjective but then what isn’t? A poor player will look half good in a great side… eg. Momorovski… a pretty good player will look like a star in a dud side… eg. Doueihi

              Enough of the fantasy… it’s not rocket surgery


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              • #52
                Originally posted by King Salvo View Post

                I don't see how Paul Momirovski was a bad signing when he played over 20 games for a team in Penrith that won the comp in 2021. You don't play those number of games for starters if he wasn't at that level as a player irrespective of how Penrith were going.

                Kevin Naiqama was a left field signing as he had "retired" so one would say it was purely a squad depth signing decision.
                Momirovski was a depth injury replacement he wasn’t the first choice, if he was so good why didn’t Penrith keep him?

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Les Tricolores View Post

                  So why do you like the Index so much… because it reminds you it’s time to have another beer?

                  Of course some tries are random… didn’t Nat Butcher score a hat trick? when do you think he’s going to do that again?

                  But there are many other statistics that go into the final metric as well… and players are generally rated against players in their own position in case you’re confused… wingers are naturally going to score the most tries aye?

                  It’s both objective and subjective but then what isn’t? A poor player will look half good in a great side… eg. Momorovski… a pretty good player will look like a star in a dud side… eg. Doueihi

                  Enough of the fantasy… it’s not rocket surgery

                  I don't. I said I don't like either. I was being flippant.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Kelby View Post
                    Top 30 next year?


                    1. J. Tedesco
                    2. D. Toops
                    3. R. Toia
                    4. J. Manu
                    5. J. Suaalii
                    6. L. Keary
                    7. S. Walker
                    8. JWH
                    9. B. Smith
                    10. L. Collins
                    11. A. Crichton
                    12. N Butcher
                    13. V. Radley

                    14. C. Watson
                    15. E Butcher
                    16. T. May
                    17. M. Lodge (?)

                    18. R. Atoni
                    19. F. Baker
                    20. J. Wong
                    21. N. Whyte
                    22. S Smith
                    23. J Paulo
                    24. X. Va'a
                    25. J. Swann
                    26. P. Momorski
                    27. B. Smith
                    28. S. Tupouniua
                    29. A. Keighran
                    30. D. Hutchinson

                    31. T. Hau Tapuha
                    32. V. Karawalevu
                    33. T. Carr
                    34. T. Moriarty
                    35. E. Roberts



                    Tuku for Atoni
                    Moriarty for Swann
                    Roberts for Toia. Toia out for 2023 with a torn ACL which he did last week playing for Nudgee College. No chance he'd start next year anyway, barely 18 and still issues on defence.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Inflictor View Post

                      I don't. I said I don't like either. I was being flippant.
                      Where’s Victor when you need him lol

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                      • #56
                        Rads, Collins, JWH and Keary were shyte in 2022?

                        Fair enough. If you say so...

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by SamKerrSimp View Post
                          Momirovski was a depth injury replacement he wasn’t the first choice, if he was so good why didn’t Penrith keep him?
                          Not a depth signing at all - Penrith wanted to extend his contract

                          https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl...f66825c879fbdc

                          But Momirovski turned them down when he had the opportunity to come back to the Roosters having played SG Ball and 5/8 for the premiership winning NYC cup side in 2016 - Manu/Radley/Sitili/Nat Butcher/Benny Thomas/Benny and Jesse Marschke to name a few from the side.

                          “It just kind of lined up that the Roosters had a position for me.

                          “I love this club. It did a lot for me when I finished high school as a person and a man so it is definitely where I want to be and where I want to stay.”

                          A huge factor in Momirovski’s decision to come back to the Roosters was master coach Trent Robinson, who recently signed a five-year extension to ensure he will be at the helm of the Tri-colours until 2028 at least.

                          “Definitely, Robbo is one of the greatest coaches in our game,” Momirovski said when asked if Robinson played a role in his homecoming.

                          “Everyone knows it. He signed another five-year extension. That is expected. I would be surprised if that wasn’t the case.

                          “He is one of the greatest minds in the game and I have learnt a lot under him.

                          “I definitely want to stay long-term.

                          “I spent five years here before I left so it is a place I know very well. I definitely want to continue staying here.”




                          A young Paul Momirovski and Angus Crichton playing SG Ball for the Roosters.
                          Last edited by King Salvo; 09-15-2022, 07:41 PM.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Les Tricolores View Post

                            So why do you like the Index so much… because it reminds you it’s time to have another beer?

                            Of course some tries are random… didn’t Nat Butcher score a hat trick? when do you think he’s going to do that again?

                            But there are many other statistics that go into the final metric as well… and players are generally rated against players in their own position in case you’re confused… wingers are naturally going to score the most tries aye?

                            It’s both objective and subjective but then what isn’t? A poor player will look half good in a great side… eg. Momorovski… a pretty good player will look like a star in a dud side… eg. Doueihi

                            Enough of the fantasy… it’s not rocket surgery

                            rocket surgery.,.or brain science either hey?

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by ism22 View Post
                              Rads, Collins, JWH and Keary were shyte in 2022?

                              Fair enough. If you say so...
                              Not shyte, I'd say they were average... in hindsight, i'd bump up JWH to a B.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by The Lip View Post
                                rocket surgery.,.or brain science either hey?
                                Glad you appreciated the joke lol

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