perretts diallowed try

[Guest]

Watching the replay this morning. For mine the Perrett knock back was not a try. He touched it into their player. Put yourself in the position of a warriors fan and watch the replay again.

[Guest]

Watching the replay this morning. For mine the Perrett knock back was not a try. He touched it into their player. Put yourself in the position of a warriors fan and watch the replay again.

Ive watched it a few times and cant see any knock on, i reckon it was a try, at least benefit of the doubt

[player 1]

I think Pez knocked it forward into Tupou before knocking it back, was very brief and hard to notice though.

Pearce I believe got that ball down but even if it went to the video ref would have been a Ref's Call as there was no clear sight of it touching the ground, Archer would have called held up.

The general refereeing however was once again poor and inconsistent, how the Warriors earned 4 more penalties simply baffles the mind. They were slower at the ruck, held us down and pinned the upper shoulders and neck a lot too - their discipline was awful yet just 4 penalties against them, it wasn't right.

Much less clear than Dean Young's knock-on "try" against us in the 2nd half of 2010 GF.

Archer is an effing cheat, pure and simple.

[horrie hastings]

Watching the replay this morning. For mine the Perrett knock back was not a try. He touched it into their player. Put yourself in the position of a warriors fan and watch the replay again.

I agree,Perret did touch the ball forward into the Warriors player,it was only slight but it was there.

[player 1]

All well and good to bitch and whine about the refs but I want to see some hard statistics and data that proves this is the case.

Every team thinks they are hard done by and this year we have been copping it but until we have hard statistics there is nothing that can be done.

Calling Spirit of 66? This guy wants to be convinced. Show him the money.

[Guest]

Yes where is this evidence hiding? I've long suspected this to be the case but I need PROOF.

[Guest]

Much less clear than Dean Young's knock-on "try" against us in the 2nd half of 2010 GF.

Archer is an effing cheat, pure and simple.

You're not wrong. That was a howler.

[player 1]

Yes where is this evidence hiding? I've long suspected this to be the case but I need PROOF.

Spirit has more details, but I found this on one of his posts:

Penalties win games and some teams are consistently favoured by the referees. In the last 4 years these teams have had a huge advantage in the penalty stakes:

Cronulla - PLUS 117 penalties
Parramatta - PLUS 101 penalties
Souths - PLUS 76 penalties

One team has a huge disadvantage:

Roosters - MINUS 150 penalties

I realise there are people here that think we deserve such a thrashing in the penalty counts every single bloody year. Do they also believe these other teams deserve such assistance from the refs? That their discipline is so consistently superior?

[Guest]

Hmm those teams aren't successful by any means. Kind of undermines the argument.

[Spirit of 66]

Yes where is this evidence hiding? I've long suspected this to be the case but I need PROOF.

Mate, check out this site: http://stats.rleague.com/rl/misc/penalties.html

It shows that, over the last half a decade, the Roosters have been the most penalised team since 1980, when the records commence. It also shows the very sympathetic treatment that some other, penalty welfare-dependent teams have received.

These figures only tell half the story, of course. It's the penalties we don't receive that are also a concern. Smith last night pointed out how strange it was that we should be flogged in the penalties last night despite being clearly the most physically dominant team.

[Guest]

Hmm those teams aren't successful by any means. Kind of undermines the argument.

supports it if you ask me. if those teams are among the worst, how is it they deserve so many penalties? youd think it would go the other way. are the refs trying to 'even up' games. this stat is difficult to quantify anyway its not always the quantity of deicions but also nature of decisions. bad calls also dont always involve penalties - knock-ons not ruled on, forward passes not ruled on, offsides not ruled on etc. if this whole issue was ever to really be questioned, someone would need to select a side they feel gets a constant raw deal from refs and another side that gets plenty of help and compile like scenarios from both teams and how the same and different refs have dealt with it differently. it would also need to be quite long so that it couldnt be dismissed as a 'one-off' thing

[Chook Norris]

Mate, check out this site: http://stats.rleague.com/rl/misc/penalties.html

It shows that, over the last half a decade, the Roosters have been the most penalised team since 1980, when the records commence. It also shows the very sympathetic treatment that some other, penalty welfare-dependent teams have received.

These figures only tell half the story, of course. It's the penalties we don't receive that are also a concern. Smith last night pointed out how strange it was that we should be flogged in the penalties last night despite being clearly the most physically dominant team.

to be fair, this year we are only -4

tigers are copping it worse - 12 on penalties

of course, the evening up of penalty counts often distorts the actual impact