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  • Originally posted by dice View Post
    Manly support their players and win premierships. We alienate our players and win spoons.
    That's because Manly players repay that support with committment on the field, case in point FPN. He manned up last year and has been consistently one of our best pigs this year. Carney repayed our support by deliberately dogging it in 2011. The very public booze up with Myles and FPN was a massive "fark you" to the club and fans from Carney and Myles. I'm just regret not having the chance to return the fark you to the selfish pricks before they left the club.

    I hope JWH or FPN smashes Myle's massive forehead in this week and snaps Carney in half when we play them. Fark em both!

    Chook.

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    • Originally posted by Chook View Post
      That's because Manly players repay that support with committment on the field, case in point FPN. He manned up last year and has been consistently one of our best pigs this year. Carney repayed our support by deliberately dogging it in 2011. The very public booze up with Myles and FPN was a massive "fark you" to the club and fans from Carney and Myles. I'm just regret not having the chance to return the fark you to the selfish pricks before they left the club.

      I hope JWH or FPN smashes Myle's massive forehead in this week and snaps Carney in half when we play them. Fark em both!

      Chook.
      I could probably put it more eloquently, but the sentiment is the same, and your passion shines through!

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      • Originally posted by redwhiteblue View Post
        We supported Todd by offering him a place in our great club. Because of this, he won a Dally M, played in a Grand Final, won another international award and made the Australian squad as an Emu. It was his choice to go drinking with Darius Boyd in that offseason when they were on tour and that's when it all unravelled..
        For your info he started his slide into drinking again after the grand final not on tour. That is from a statement by Brian Smith. Can't remember when he made it but it was around the time we sacked him.
        Spanner gone and never forgotten

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        • fpn might feel a bit used by myles and carney so it wouldnt surprise me if he went hunting? go get them big fella!

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          • Originally posted by Chook View Post
            That's because Manly players repay that support with committment on the field, case in point FPN. He manned up last year and has been consistently one of our best pigs this year. Carney repayed our support by deliberately dogging it in 2011. The very public booze up with Myles and FPN was a massive "fark you" to the club and fans from Carney and Myles. I'm just regret not having the chance to return the fark you to the selfish pricks before they left the club.

            I hope JWH or FPN smashes Myle's massive forehead in this week and snaps Carney in half when we play them. Fark em both!Chook.
            I feel exactly the same way though I would probably express it in less colourful language!

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            • Originally posted by Headless Chook View Post
              Interesting that with Carney in the team and being supported we had something like 5 wins from 17 games last season. Since we 'alienated' him we are now 7 from 9. The previous form seems more like spoon winning form than the current form. But hey......keep the myth going. Even now, being 'supported' by the Sharks his form has been sound at best and certainly not worthy of the Origin spot that is being spoken about and you just know that its only a matter of time before it all blows up in his face again.
              bs stats. Take a closer look at those 7 wins. Most of them were flukey late victories against lowly teams who played better than us. Anyone getting excited about those wins is clueless.

              Back to the point. There are 13 players on the field. Why single out Carney? How did the players become so dependent on one player? Why weren't they able to perform unless Carney put the game on a platter for them?


              You just have to go back to 2007 and 2009 to realise that this team has more serious issues that go beyond any one single player or person at the club. In 2007 how on earth did we go from certain wooden spooners to a premiership threat overnight? and then wooden spooners in 2009? The core of our squad comprises mentally weak and unprofessional players. It has has nothing to do with Carney, Myles, Mason, Finch, Freddy, or whoever else we blame for this year or next year's failures.

              The reason I brought up Manly is they are a similar team. It is only the smarts of Hasler in giving unconditional support and camaraderie to the players which has kept them from self-destructing like us. They could have very easily sacked Stewart and it would have been all over for them.
              Last edited by dice; 04-04-2012, 01:19 PM.

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              • Originally posted by dice View Post
                bs stats. Take a closer look at those 7 wins. Most of them were flukey late victories against lowly teams who played better than us. Anyone getting excited about those wins is clueless.

                Back to the point. There are 13 players on the field. Why single out Carney? How did the players become so dependent on one player? Why weren't they able to perform unless Carney put the game on a platter for them?


                You just have to go back to 2007 and 2009 to realise that this team has more serious issues that go beyond any one single player or person at the club. In 2007 how on earth did we go from certain wooden spooners to a premiership threat overnight? and then wooden spooners in 2009? The core of our squad comprises mentally weak and unprofessional players. It has has nothing to do with Carney, Myles, Mason, Finch, Freddy, or whoever else we blame for this year or next year's failures.

                The reason I brought up Manly is they are a similar team. It is only the smarts of Hasler in giving unconditional support and camaraderie to the players which has kept them from self-destructing like us. They could have very easily sacked Stewart and it would have been all over for them.
                The big difference is that Stewart performed when he was on the paddock for Manly, Carney dogged it for us. And the Hasler thing is rubbish. He showed no "unconditional support and camaraderie" when he jumped ship to the Dogs weeks after winning the title yet Stewart is still performing on the paddock today for Manly.

                The issue here is not the clubs or their processes. It is the individual players concerned and their response to adversity. Stewart sucked it up and repayed Manly on the field. Carney sulked like a farking sook and took his bat and ball and ran into the arms of anyone who would have him and NOT make him face up to the pricks drinking issues.

                Chook.

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                • Originally posted by dice View Post
                  bs stats. Take a closer look at those 7 wins. Most of them were flukey late victories against lowly teams who played better than us. Anyone getting excited about those wins is clueless.

                  Back to the point. There are 13 players on the field. Why single out Carney? How did the players become so dependent on one player? Why weren't they able to perform unless Carney put the game on a platter for them?You just have to go back to 2007 and 2009 to realise that this team has more serious issues that go beyond any one single player or person at the club. In 2007 how on earth did we go from certain wooden spooners to a premiership threat overnight? and then wooden spooners in 2009? The core of our squad comprises mentally weak and unprofessional players. It has has nothing to do with Carney, Myles, Mason, Finch, Freddy, or whoever else we blame for this year or next year's failures.

                  The reason I brought up Manly is they are a similar team. It is only the smarts of Hasler in giving unconditional support and camaraderie to the players which has kept them from self-destructing like us. They could have very easily sacked Stewart and it would have been all over for them.
                  It's not what Carney didn't do, it's what he did do. I saw close games last year where we tackled our hearts out only to see Carney miss tackles with woeful 'couldn't give a stuff' turnstyle defence which led directly to tries that handed the game to the other team. In those close games that you say we fluked near the end, I bet if Carney was in the team we would have lost those games too because he would have handed the opposition a try or two with just this type of defence.
                  I also witnessed his woeful kicking and total lack of interest in being out there. My argument is that if Carney played those last four games, we lose them. So yes, I believe he can be held responsible for most of our woe last year - off -field and on.

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                  • Originally posted by dice View Post
                    bs stats. Take a closer look at those 7 wins. Most of them were flukey late victories against lowly teams who played better than us. Anyone getting excited about those wins is clueless.

                    Back to the point. There are 13 players on the field. Why single out Carney? How did the players become so dependent on one player? Why weren't they able to perform unless Carney put the game on a platter for them?


                    You just have to go back to 2007 and 2009 to realise that this team has more serious issues that go beyond any one single player or person at the club. In 2007 how on earth did we go from certain wooden spooners to a premiership threat overnight? and then wooden spooners in 2009? The core of our squad comprises mentally weak and unprofessional players. It has has nothing to do with Carney, Myles, Mason, Finch, Freddy, or whoever else we blame for this year or next year's failures.

                    The reason I brought up Manly is they are a similar team. It is only the smarts of Hasler in giving unconditional support and camaraderie to the players which has kept them from self-destructing like us. They could have very easily sacked Stewart and it would have been all over for them.
                    LOL, how many of them did we have in 2010 ?

                    Tigers x 2, Bulldogs, and Souffs just from the top of my head.

                    Argument invalid.

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                    • Originally posted by Chook View Post
                      The big difference is that Stewart performed when he was on the paddock for Manly, Carney dogged it for us. And the Hasler thing is rubbish. He showed no "unconditional support and camaraderie" when he jumped ship to the Dogs weeks after winning the title yet Stewart is still performing on the paddock today for Manly.

                      The issue here is not the clubs or their processes. It is the individual players concerned and their response to adversity. Stewart sucked it up and repayed Manly on the field. Carney sulked like a farking sook and took his bat and ball and ran into the arms of anyone who would have him and NOT make him face up to the pricks drinking issues.

                      Chook.
                      The whole Peter Peters thing has been well-documented. Hasler tried desperately to maintain camaraderie at the club.

                      Keep blaming individuals. Maybe you can start a few more FOFF threads over the next few years each time we compete for the wooden spoon.

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                      • Originally posted by dice View Post
                        The whole Peter Peters thing has been well-documented. Hasler tried desperately to maintain camaraderie at the club.
                        I think Peter Peters problems stem more from being blind for thinking that empty space from Sky News is attractive.

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                        • Originally posted by dice View Post
                          The whole Peter Peters thing has been well-documented. Hasler tried desperately to maintain camaraderie at the club.

                          Keep blaming individuals. Maybe you can start a few more FOFF threads over the next few years each time we compete for the wooden spoon.
                          Okay then, what is the problem?

                          Name the core of weak minded players in our team. Point out exactly what is wrong and how you think we should fix it.

                          Start suggesting solutions instead of sitting there pointing at problems.

                          Until then you are boring as batshit.

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                          • Originally posted by BigMike View Post
                            LOL, how many of them did we have in 2010 ?

                            Tigers x 2, Bulldogs, and Souffs just from the top of my head.

                            Argument invalid.
                            LOL& Beating the Bulldogs in 2010 being a fluke That day the team overcame so the most biased and disgraceful refreeing decisios aginst them or any other team that I have witnessed in all my years of watching Rugby League
                            When you trust your television
                            what you get is what you got
                            Cause when they own the information
                            they can bend it all they want

                            John Mayer

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                            • Originally posted by dice View Post
                              bs stats. Take a closer look at those 7 wins. Most of them were flukey late victories against lowly teams who played better than us. Anyone getting excited about those wins is clueless.

                              Back to the point. There are 13 players on the field. Why single out Carney? How did the players become so dependent on one player? Why weren't they able to perform unless Carney put the game on a platter for them?


                              You just have to go back to 2007 and 2009 to realise that this team has more serious issues that go beyond any one single player or person at the club. In 2007 how on earth did we go from certain wooden spooners to a premiership threat overnight? and then wooden spooners in 2009? The core of our squad comprises mentally weak and unprofessional players. It has has nothing to do with Carney, Myles, Mason, Finch, Freddy, or whoever else we blame for this year or next year's failures.

                              The reason I brought up Manly is they are a similar team. It is only the smarts of Hasler in giving unconditional support and camaraderie to the players which has kept them from self-destructing like us. They could have very easily sacked Stewart and it would have been all over for them.
                              They were still wins regardless, which is far more than what we were getting with Carney still in the squad. Maybe the team was sick of the prima donna antics of a couple of players hence the lack of spirit and harmony. I would rather the team of the back end of last season and early this season, that at least seems to have some passion and care about results. It looks to me like the spirit is being rebuilt and I think that is a result of making the decision to get rid of divisive influences.

                              You talk about winning premierships.....do you honestly we think we would be contenders with Myles and carney still in the team? I know I don't.

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                              • Originally posted by dice View Post
                                The whole Peter Peters thing has been well-documented. Hasler tried desperately to maintain camaraderie at the club.

                                Keep blaming individuals. Maybe you can start a few more FOFF threads over the next few years each time we compete for the wooden spoon.
                                Me and Todd will. (Todd Carney ‏ @tcarney06 Reply Retweet Favorited · Open
                                @bondiroosters @sydneyroosters I did not have no crack at the roosters I have said it before I loved it there and would be still there but I made the mistake and they had to make a decision to keep me or let me go.I also don't blame any but myself)

                                Meanwhile you and Pendi can keep putting stock in porridge shots from Rothfield everytime they cum our way.

                                Chook.

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