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  • #91
    Originally posted by Carlos Parra View Post
    If I ran the club, I'd never re-sign a player who did an ACL or got a long term injury. That injured part of the body remains permanently weak. 2 or more concussions would be enough for me too.
    That is such a ridiculous statement. You would struggle to field a team.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by Carlos Parra View Post
      If I ran the club, I'd never re-sign a player who did an ACL or got a long term injury. That injured part of the body remains permanently weak. 2 or more concussions would be enough for me too.
      Boyd Cordner had both knees done as a teenager. JWH done his ACL in 2015.

      The actual ACL comes back stronger after surgery and 6-9 months of rehab.....and over time it goes back to being the same strength before the injury occurred.

      I think the Roosters have just been unlucky with ACL injuries

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      • #93
        Originally posted by Carlos Parra View Post
        If I ran the club, I'd never re-sign a player who did an ACL or got a long term injury. That injured part of the body remains permanently weak. 2 or more concussions would be enough for me too.
        Hasn’t Teddy had two ACL injuries? He recovered quite well. As did JWH, Radley, Verrils etc.

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        • #94
          I don't recall many if any of the ACL injuries being as a result of a player being tackled etc they all seemed to be innocuous incidents - i.e non contact ones.

          I assume if the club saw it as an issue they would be reviewing why this happens and make whatever changes are necessary - Change how train- Length and Intensity of the training and increase rest and recovery periods / ACL strengthening exercises etc.

          Just part and parcel of the nature of modern professional sports nowadays as the athletes are getting bigger, faster, stronger and train harder to stay at the top of their game

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          • #95
            Originally posted by Carlos Parra View Post
            If I ran the club, I'd never re-sign a player who did an ACL or got a long term injury. That injured part of the body remains permanently weak. 2 or more concussions would be enough for me too.
            Thank god you don't run the club is all I can say

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            • #96
              Originally posted by Carlos Parra View Post
              If I ran the club, I'd never re-sign a player who did an ACL or got a long term injury. That injured part of the body remains permanently weak. 2 or more concussions would be enough for me too.
              Wish you rans the vermin then

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              • #97
                Originally posted by Carlos Parra View Post
                If I ran the club, I'd never re-sign a player who did an ACL or got a long term injury. That injured part of the body remains permanently weak. 2 or more concussions would be enough for me too.
                Cordner did both knees before he was graded.

                Born and bred in the eastern suburbs.

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                • #98
                  Well, I was certain I'd cop some flak. Repeated injuries are a sign of weakness to me. If you're young, then I suppose that's fine. The body can, and does, usually bounce back. If there is proof that having surgery strengthens the area that was injured, then great. But I'm yet to see the evidence.

                  Personally, I wouldn't want to be paying big dollars for someone who spends half the year off the field with injury. They are of absolutely no use sitting on the sidelines in a moon boot and hobbling about on crutches.

                  If ACL surgery only makes you stronger, why not have your entire line up operated on before there's even an injury? Spread it out over 10 years or, better still, send the juniors for an operation once they've signed a contract in their teens. Better still, do it as soon as they can walk.

                  Damn, I can't find the sarcasm emoji thingy.
                  1985: 1 try vs Parramatta, 1 try vs Manly, 1 try vs Wests, 2 tries vs Souffs
                  1986: 2 tries vs Illawarra, 1 try vs Balmain, 2 tries vs Norths.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by Carlos Parra View Post
                    Well, I was certain I'd cop some flak. Repeated injuries are a sign of weakness to me. If you're young, then I suppose that's fine. The body can, and does, usually bounce back. If there is proof that having surgery strengthens the area that was injured, then great. But I'm yet to see the evidence.

                    Personally, I wouldn't want to be paying big dollars for someone who spends half the year off the field with injury. They are of absolutely no use sitting on the sidelines in a moon boot and hobbling about on crutches.

                    If ACL surgery only makes you stronger, why not have your entire line up operated on before there's even an injury? Spread it out over 10 years or, better still, send the juniors for an operation once they've signed a contract in their teens. Better still, do it as soon as they can walk.

                    Damn, I can't find the sarcasm emoji thingy.
                    Minni had career saving / ending back surgery part way through his career and went on to be one of the greatest ever fb

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                    • NRL Physio today hinting at the worst case scenario for Watson

                      https://twitter.com/nrlphysio/status...52809372585988

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                      • Originally posted by fletch View Post
                        NRL Physio today hinting at the worst case scenario for Watson

                        https://twitter.com/nrlphysio/status...52809372585988
                        Looks bad for Connor - looks like he's given up completely wearing crocs is a dead give away - there is little hope I'm afraid

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                        • Originally posted by fletch View Post
                          NRL Physio today hinting at the worst case scenario for Watson

                          https://twitter.com/nrlphysio/status...52809372585988
                          Hard to say with no information on whether it's a partial or full tear - I thought someone posted that Watson had been operated on ?

                          If you have a grade 3 strain, you have a complete tear in your muscle or tendon. The muscle may be torn into two pieces, or the muscle and tendon may have come apart, and the gap has filled with blood. You'll have bruising and swelling. Your doctor may place the area in a cast.
                          • Complete patellar tendon tear recovery: since the patellar tendon breaks into two pieces, it will require surgery, which can take about six months to recover along with extensive rehabilitation. Some patients have reported a period of about 12 months before complete recovery.
                          • Partial patellar tendon tear recovery: since the patellar tendon is not disrupted completely (some fragments may fray like fragments on a rope) and is still in one piece, treatment requires wearing a brace and physical therapy for three to six weeks while you recover.
                          The recovery rate and time may vary between patients, since everyone heals at different speeds. Significant factors that also may affect recovery include overall health and the amount of effort put towards recovering faster.

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                          • Originally posted by Carlos Parra View Post
                            Well, I was certain I'd cop some flak. Repeated injuries are a sign of weakness to me. If you're young, then I suppose that's fine. The body can, and does, usually bounce back. If there is proof that having surgery strengthens the area that was injured, then great. But I'm yet to see the evidence.

                            Personally, I wouldn't want to be paying big dollars for someone who spends half the year off the field with injury. They are of absolutely no use sitting on the sidelines in a moon boot and hobbling about on crutches.

                            If ACL surgery only makes you stronger, why not have your entire line up operated on before there's even an injury? Spread it out over 10 years or, better still, send the juniors for an operation once they've signed a contract in their teens. Better still, do it as soon as they can walk.

                            Damn, I can't find the sarcasm emoji thingy.
                            Injuries are part and parcel of professional sport and even amateur sport for that matter - The Human Body was not really designed for most of the sports that are played or people participate in one has to say.

                            Why would you operate on anyone's ACL's that are perfectly okay though when the ACL procedure which involves a graft(segment of a tendon) from another part of the knee or a tendon from a deceased donor is not required.

                            Just like any other worker on sick leave players are paid their normal salary so not quite sure what you are meaning - are you saying they shouldn't be paid if out injured or should be released/not re-signed if they suffer an injury which has put them out the game for a certain period of time ?

                            Of course people that have had ACL surgery have a greater chance of developing post traumatic arthritis of the knee.

                            An ACL graft after a reconstruction surgery is initially stronger, but over time will become weaker, and eventually is almost as strong as your original ACL. These changes occur as a result of the body's natural reaction to the new ACL graft

                            Below explains it and the ACL reconstruction process

                            https://curovate.com/blog/is-my-acl-...-original-acl/

                            https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-pro...t/pac-20384598
                            Last edited by King Salvo; 01-16-2023, 10:57 PM.

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                            • It would be nice if the club was a little more transparent on player injuries.

                              It's not as if it's the week leading up to the grand final. Fans are entitled to know this sort of information.
                              Born and bred in the eastern suburbs.

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                              • Originally posted by Thirteen View Post

                                Hasn’t Teddy had two ACL injuries? He recovered quite well. As did JWH, Radley, Verrils etc.
                                yep, his debut first grade game at tigers was one of them

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