Lessons Learnt

[zac]

The NRL has a simple solution to the problem by moving to a 5 man bench. With the stricter policing of HIA if you don't carry an outside back on the bench and lose a winger or centre it can shut down one edge of your attack once you start shuffling forwards into the backline.
Two props off the bench is a must along with a 2nd dummy half and you really want to give your lock a spell as well.
The players association go on about player welfare and this is one point they should be really pushing for.

the other one they might look at is bringing back an unlimited interchange. the game's quicker these days with the 6as so the reason for bringing the limited interchange isn't so relevant. it would also mean teams can't get an advantage by bending hia rules. no doubt there are reasons to keep the limited interchange but if player welfare is an increasing concern then having unlimited interchange is worth another look

[King Salvo]

Ok make them defend a larger space with no backrower riding shotgun for them , which would make it easier to isolate them 1 on 1.


Yeah makes sence

Why would you have your main play makers targeted in D and racking up the tackles when you need them "fresh" for the offense.

If you need another defender to assist that player in D then they are leaving their player unmarked and will always be second guessing themselves on whether they should be assisting and thus not concentrating on their own D role

You see that a fair bit a defender thinking they have to make another defenders tackles as well as their own i.e lack of confidence or trust in the other defender - it always turns out for the worse.

[Kelby]

Why would you have your main play makers targeted in D and racking up the tackles when you need them "fresh" for the offense.

If you need another defender to assist that player in D then they are leaving their player unmarked and will always be second guessing themselves on whether they should be assisting and thus not concentrating on their own D role

You see that a fair bit a defender thinking they have to make another defenders tackles as well as their own i.e lack of confidence or trust in the other defender - it always turns out for the worse.

Exactly what happens with Sammy. I have no issue with him tackling or his tackle efficiency rates, etc.
He is small, our half back, play maker, young, they want to hurt him.
Thats the game.

[ccfc bondi]

Radley is not a smart thinker (lol Robbo)

Hutch is not a centre & hardly a top 17 player

Suaalii is better on the wing

Robbo's bench rotation is very questionable

Robbo currently way behind Bennett & Bellamy.

And the NRL 6 again rule is disguised as a ref abusing system.

We will be back bigger & better with Teddy, Lodge & Gus.

A blight on the game and definitely gives refs the luxury of punishing a team. If a penalty is warranted, they should have the guts to award one so it's counted in the statistics and can't be disguised. Teams deserve the option of going for a penalty goal as well.

[Johnny Brass]

the other one they might look at is bringing back an unlimited interchange. the game's quicker these days with the 6as so the reason for bringing the limited interchange isn't so relevant. it would also mean teams can't get an advantage by bending hia rules. no doubt there are reasons to keep the limited interchange but if player welfare is an increasing concern then having unlimited interchange is worth another look

I can't see them bringing in unlimited interchanges back Zac, they reduced them to encourage fatigue so the smaller players have more options against tiring forwards along with the 6 agains which due to refs discretion has become very subjective.
The difference in a 6 again on the 1st tackle or the 4th is massive yet recorded the same on the stat sheet.

[zac]

I can't see them bringing in unlimited interchanges back Zac, they reduced them to encourage fatigue so the smaller players have more options against tiring forwards along with the 6 agains which due to refs discretion has become very subjective.
The difference in a 6 again on the 1st tackle or the 4th is massive yet recorded the same on the stat sheet.

i think you're right and i'm not sure what i think is best. the only factor that might change things is player welfare. the limited interchange has been significantly affected by hias, which would work as a few extra interchanges most games. it's not a big issue but one thing i think they should bring is unlimited interchange during extra time. they've already played 80 and playing a full ten of extra time probably increases recovery time before next week's game

[King Salvo]

The AFL had 4 interchanges and 2 emergencies(medical substitutions) that could be used to replace an injured player in game - To be eligible for a medical substitution, the club doctor must decide that an injured player will be unable to play a game in the next 12 days.

Of course Coaches exploited this so the AFL reduced it to one.

The NRL would have looked at that as well so one can say they wont go to a system that allows 2 medical substitutions either.

Certainly won't be going back to unlimited interchange.

The only solutions would be either

Increase interchanges to say 10

A 5 Player interchange bench which is the most logical - squads are cut to 19 players 24 hours pre kickoff and one of the 2 reserves are named 18th player - since these players are at the ground why not use both- 5 player bench with the 19th player the medical substitute to be activated as per the current rules in place for activating the 18th player.

[milanja]

The AFL had 4 interchanges and 2 emergencies(medical substitutions) that could be used to replace an injured player in game - To be eligible for a medical substitution, the club doctor must decide that an injured player will be unable to play a game in the next 12 days.

Of course Coaches exploited this so the AFL reduced it to one.

The NRL would have looked at that as well so one can say they wont go to a system that allows 2 medical substitutions either.

Certainly won't be going back to unlimited interchange.

The only solutions would be either

Increase interchanges to say 10

A 5 Player interchange bench which is the most logical - squads are cut to 19 players 24 hours pre kickoff and one of the 2 reserves are named 18th player - since these players are at the ground why not use both- 5 player bench with the 19th player the medical substitute to be activated as per the current rules in place for activating the 18th player.

Wasn’t there talk a few years ago about reducing the interchanges to only 6? Sounds like madness with all the new concussion protocols these days.

[Eggspert]

A blight on the game and definitely gives refs the luxury of punishing a team. If a penalty is warranted, they should have the guts to award one so it's counted in the statistics and can't be disguised. Teams deserve the option of going for a penalty goal as well.

Agree, every 6 again is a penalty in the old days which now doesn't give you a shot on goal.

Teams are now backing their defence to stop a try which is more likely & beneficial than conceding an easy 2 points in front of goal.

[Eggspert]

With the team we have & to be -20 for attack after 7 rds is a joke.

Can't score points for Shite.

Against a Sharks team who has leaked points all year.

[Rooster90]

Zero lessons learnt obviously

[Steggles]

Our coach didn’t learn any lessons on how to use his full bench either. Inexcusable not to use Whyte after all of the defence we had to do after the penalty/6A/sin bin stitch up. Even Captain Plod got 21 minutes.

[Eggspert]

Completion rate was much better this week.

I knew there was a positive somewhere.

And no injuries.