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  • #31
    When we're 35 out on the last, why not run it sometimes instead of putting up a shit bomb that ends up uncontested and taken on the 10??

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    • #32
      Originally posted by FREEMAN89 View Post
      Yep.. no creative kicking.

      just bomb end over end and hope for the best.

      they need to take lessons from Burton and Cleary
      Have we had a half since Freddy that kicks bombs that are not exclusively end over end? Maybe supercoach can show Sammy a video of Cleary or Burton or Munster or Fogherty or any other half in the NRL.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by roosterproud View Post
        A brief annalagy from last night is.
        our attack
        we run 1 of the ruck in the middle 3rd of the field. Run1 Butcher. Then 2poo. Paulo. Jaz or Linds run on tackle 4 then a medium bomb straight down the middle of the field straght to the fullback with no pressure from us. And repeat.snd repeat and repeat
        Teddy over tries his hand
        manu looked tired
        2poo looks frustrated with Sualli jumping at every thing getting in his road.
        Smiths service is as good as Lussicks and isnt fit enough for 40 minutes
        jaz and lodge are making sfa pcms.

        My fix would be smith for 25 to 30 mins first half with Turpin on after that til half time. Yes i know that will mean we drop Hutch.

        Use our forwards wider in the attack. Not first reciever but a second with a support player.

        Use Teddy more as a decoy out the back line1. He will draw 2 defenders every time.
        PCM's are overrated. Jazz gets down quick with fast play the balls. Lodge on the other hand did get driven back after every hit up. Seluka Fafita was IMO the worst prop we had, every time he got on the field he was pathetic, goes to Souths and looks to be improving every game - would be handy right about now.

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        • #34
          Keary needs to take the line on a bit more often imo.I know Hes had a few head knocks but when he hits the line and slips those short balls rads and angus become very dangerous.We will seewhat happens when angus comes back next week.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Rooster_6 View Post
            Walker doesn’t have the organisational skills or kicking game to be a halfback yet.

            He’s not even offering any creativity in the side anymore because he’s so bogged down trying to worry about working to a point on the field and where he needs to be for last play kicks. His talent is being wasted.

            We look our best when Keary is touching the ball 3-4 times per set. There was a few of those back to back with 15-20 mins to go and it looked like we might go on with it but then he got hit hard and went missing for the next 5 minutes.
            Particularly the occasional kick behind the line (chip over the top) to get repeat sets or threaten for a try, anything to get the defence thinking in the red zone. The rigid instruction given to Walker isn't gonna threaten any defence, and as much as we don't want to admit Keary is a few yards slower and quite timid in defence than he was just a few years ago.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Kelby View Post

              I would put Sualli back to the wing.
              Rads moved from the ruck to edge defence next to Sammy.
              Turps into the 17.

              I was thinking Sualli back to wing as well, although it was only a few weeks ago I said we need to give him some time.

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              • #37
                I'd stick with Walker. He is still young and we need to be patient. He is obviously a talent. The best young half I've seen at our club in years.

                Freddy, Joey, Cronk, JT have all said that you need to give a young half at least 100 FG games before they start to mature and understand their game.

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                • #38
                  Nothing too wrong with Walker. He's being coached to play a certain way.

                  It's a shame he rarely gets the opportunity to play any ad-lib footy. That's his game.
                  Born and bred in the eastern suburbs.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Bowie79 View Post

                    Particularly the occasional kick behind the line (chip over the top) to get repeat sets or threaten for a try, anything to get the defence thinking in the red zone. The rigid instruction given to Walker isn't gonna threaten any defence, and as much as we don't want to admit Keary is a few yards slower and quite timid in defence than he was just a few years ago.
                    I love Keary but it feels like it's the elephant in the room that no one wants to address. He still has moments of brilliance but he's very tentative committing to playing into the line which is his strength - running AT defences.

                    I don't blame him one bit given all the head knocks and I so much hope I'm wrong on this but feels like he's holding back and then we've accommodated that by trying to force Walker into a role that he's not a natural at.

                    Very evident when Keary is the primary playmaker and organising the side we look a million times better, players know what they're doing, our shapes are good and not overcrowding each other and there's a high tempo to our play.

                    His long kicking game is also far superior, our two best kicks last night came form Keary and Brandon Smith. Again though so many times this year I've seen Keary kick and he's so conscious about the kick pressure that he's often bracing whilst trying to kick.

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                    • #40
                      I mean, Keary was our halfback last year and we were awful.

                      Switching our halves around will just be going backwards. Give Walker time.

                      And tbh I don't think Keary has been too bad. I've no idea how you can think Rads has been one of our best but Keary is the elephant in the room.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Batemans Bay Rooster View Post
                        When we're 35 out on the last, why not run it sometimes instead of putting up a shit bomb that ends up uncontested and taken on the 10??
                        Indeed.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Tommy Smith View Post
                          I mean, Keary was our halfback last year and we were awful.

                          Switching our halves around will just be going backwards. Give Walker time.

                          And tbh I don't think Keary has been too bad. I've no idea how you can think Rads has been one of our best but Keary is the elephant in the room.
                          Indeed.

                          Keary and Walker set Allianz 'on fire' against Souths or Eels?


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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by MKCS View Post
                            Do we have anyone coming through that could take Keary's place next season? Just had a look at who is off contract in 2023 - 2024 who could play 6 and the options are pretty limited apart from Jarome Luai who you would think probably will leave Penrith and chase a big deal.

                            Of course Manu is an option also and there are probably some gun centres available to recruit then also, I'd love to see what Manu can do at 6 as soon as possible but unlikely to see that unless Keary is out.
                            I like Jarome.... he would bring energy to the team and is big enough to hold his own in defence! He is also cocky enough to own a game if given more time to do that. He doesn't have to now and only has to on rare occassions. I would be targeting him!

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                            • #44
                              Would a Hutchison-Keary combo be worth considering. Hutch has a big boot, a bit more structured playmaker. Goal kicking will probably be an issue but...

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Nicola Tesla View Post

                                I like Jarome.... he would bring energy to the team and is big enough to hold his own in defence! He is also cocky enough to own a game if given more time to do that. He doesn't have to now and only has to on rare occassions. I would be targeting him!
                                Me too. He is a punk, but he can play. He and Cleary must be the biggest halves in the comp. Both look to be at least 90kg+.

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