For all those calling for a new coach

[Eggspert]

The only coach who would be considered by any club as their icon symbol is Bellamy.

The Storm's history is short & what he's turned them into & achieved in that short time is remarkable.

[Rooster36]

The only coach who would be considered by any club as their icon symbol is Bellamy.

The Storm's history is short & what he's turned them into & achieved in that short time is remarkable.

Also in charge during the most systemic and intentional cheating scandal rugby league has ever seen…. And don’t give me the he had no idea crap

[Eggspert]

Also in charge during the most systemic and intentional cheating scandal rugby league has ever seen…. And don’t give me the he had no idea crap

Get your point but when you mention what is Melbourne the thing that comes to me is Bellamy & Cameron Smith in their short history.

With the Roosters 115yrs of history Robbo isn't the sole owner of what is the Roosters.

[Mickie Lane]

Robbo is not the Roosters.

The Roosters have been around since 1908 & have a proud traditional history with many great players & coaches.

Robbo's is a Rooster hall of famer coach with 3 premierships in 7yrs & will always be loved for that.

But he is paid like anyone else involved at the club for doing his job & producing results.

Nobody has a call on when their time is up if they don't produce satisfactory results.

For all the time I’ve followed the Chooks there has been no coach who has brought spirit to the club like Robbo.
Jack, Sticky & Graham Murray brought spirit but not for 10 years so that’s why I say Robbo is the Roosters.

He will have the call on when he finishes up, you’ll see.

[King Salvo]

Its always fun seeing the brigade defend the team at all costs because we live in a soft world where no criticism is allowed.

Sure there are some extreme people on here who want a fire sale of players over one bad result and that is fickle. But picking apart a quite frankly woeful loss that showed the same characteristics as all the other losses of the past 18 months without any change is worthy of criticism. We have one of the best squads on paper and dont play like it.

There are many other sides with very good squads as well though for instance Penrith//Broncos/Storm/Sharks/Manly/Souths/Cowboys/Parramatta to name some- people on here didn't or don't rate the Storm or Sharks for an example but they will win more games than they will lose.

People do get a little too wrapped up with what the press says( Roosters have the best squad and are premiership favourites or 2nd Favourites etc) and thus don't acknowledge or believe that other teams actually do have very good squads also.

Hence this view on here by many that the Roosters should win ever game they play and the comp every year and when they don't it culminates in the the doom and gloom and knee jerk reactions on here when they do lose a game.

You comment that it was a woeful loss is based on what though - the paper/press talk of best squad /premierships favourites etc so they should win every game ? - The so called woeful loss doesn't acknowledge the effort of the Roosters players or the Sharks who I have already mentioned are a very good footy side themselves.

They say you need a very good spine as they call it to be any chance of winning a comp as these players handle the ball more often than others do in a game so they have a major say and influence on the offense side of your game.

Where does the Roosters spine rate against the spines of even just the other 8 teams I have mentioned - One would say Penrith and Storm have better spines at the very least.

• Penrith - Edwards/ Lui/Cleary/ Luke
• Brisbane - Walsh / Mam/Reynolds/Walters
• Storm - Meaney/Papenhuyzen / Munster/Hughes/Grant
• Sharks - Kennedy/Moylan/Hyne/Brailey
• Manly - Turbo/Schuster/Cherry-Evans/Croker
• Souths- Mitchell/ Walker/Ilias/Cook
• Cowboys - Drinkwatter/Dearden/Townsend/Robson
• Parramatta - Gutherson/Brown/Moses/Hodgson

• Roosters - Tedesco/Keary/Walker/ B Smith

The game against the Storm was poor - 41% possession and 61% set completions are not going win you any game - that was acknowledged as a poor team performance

If you look at some of the stats though from the premiership years of 2018/2019 - The Roosters were around 75% set completions / number 1 in errors , handling errors and penalties conceded - 2018 47% possession (11) and 2019 - 48% possession (11) - 2018 - 76% set completions (13) - 2019 - 75% set completions (14)

The Roosters have actually improved in some of those stats areas - still around the 75% or so set completions

One stat that is glaring in it's decline is kicking metres though which is concerning.

When your struggling to making yardage in your sets you need to be able to kick yourself out of trouble - It is acknowledged that Keary and Walker don't have the distance in their general field kicks.

Whether or not that can be addressed i.e Keary and Walker head over for some kicking training from Sydney Swans Players is unknown- I think they used to have a Former Swans players on the books as some sort of kicking consultant.

Nathan Cleary for an example acknowledges that the significant improvement in his kicking stemmed from training sessions in kicking from Trent Cotchin from the Mighty Richmond Tigers AFL side

Roosters Kicking Metres

2018 - 2nd
2019 - 4th
2020 - 9th
2021 - 12th
2022- 16th


https://www.nrl.com/stats/?competition=111&season=2023

[King Salvo]

The only coach who would be considered by any club as their icon symbol is Bellamy.

The Storm's history is short & what he's turned them into & achieved in that short time is remarkable.

Chris Anderson

[HunchoRooster]

There are many other sides with very good squads as well though for instance Penrith//Broncos/Storm/Sharks/Manly/Souths/Cowboys/Parramatta to name some- people on here didn't or don't rate the Storm or Sharks for an example but they will win more games than they will lose.

People do get a little too wrapped up with what the press says( Roosters have the best squad and are premiership favourites or 2nd Favourites etc) and thus don't acknowledge or believe that other teams actually do have very good squads also.

Hence this view on here by many that the Roosters should win ever game they play and the comp every year and when they don't it culminates in the the doom and gloom and knee jerk reactions on here when they do lose a game.

You comment that it was a woeful loss is based on what though - the paper/press talk of best squad /premierships favourites etc so they should win every game ? - The so called woeful loss doesn't acknowledge the effort of the Roosters players or the Sharks who I have already mentioned are a very good footy side themselves.

They say you need a very good spine as they call it to be any chance of winning a comp as these players handle the ball more often than others do in a game so they have a major say and influence on the offense side of your game.

Where does the Roosters spine rate against the spines of even just the other 8 teams I have mentioned - One would say Penrith and Storm have better spines at the very least.

• Penrith - Edwards/ Lui/Cleary/ Luke
• Brisbane - Walsh / Mam/Reynolds/Walters
• Storm - Meaney/Papenhuyzen / Munster/Hughes/Grant
• Sharks - Kennedy/Moylan/Hyne/Brailey
• Manly - Turbo/Schuster/Cherry-Evans/Croker
• Souths- Mitchell/ Walker/Ilias/Cook
• Cowboys - Drinkwatter/Dearden/Townsend/Robson
• Parramatta - Gutherson/Brown/Moses/Hodgson

• Roosters - Tedesco/Keary/Walker/ B Smith

The game against the Storm was poor - 41% possession and 61% set completions are not going win you any game - that was acknowledged as a poor team performance

If you look at some of the stats though from the premiership years of 2018/2019 - The Roosters were around 75% set completions / number 1 in errors , handling errors and penalties conceded - 2018 47% possession (11) and 2019 - 48% possession (11) - 2018 - 76% set completions (13) - 2019 - 75% set completions (14)

The Roosters have actually improved in some of those stats areas - still around the 75% or so set completions

One stat that is glaring in it's decline is kicking metres though which is concerning.

When your struggling to making yardage in your sets you need to be able to kick yourself out of trouble - It is acknowledged that Keary and Walker don't have the distance in their general field kicks.

Whether or not that can be addressed i.e Keary and Walker head over for some kicking training from Sydney Swans Players is unknown- I think they used to have a Former Swans players on the books as some sort of kicking consultant.

Nathan Cleary for an example acknowledges that the significant improvement in his kicking stemmed from training sessions in kicking from Trent Cotchin from the Mighty Richmond Tigers AFL side

Roosters Kicking Metres

2018 - 2nd
2019 - 4th
2020 - 9th
2021 - 12th
2022- 16th


https://www.nrl.com/stats/?competition=111&season=2023

It was woeful because of the complete lack of creativity we had in attack despite getting plenty of chances to attack their line. We are clunky as all hell. As we usually are for the first 6-8 weeks of a season. When it occurs this often, its systematic and not just by chance. The effort and ball handling was much improved from the Melb game but that doesn't constitute overall improvement or shield the team from criticism.

You actually make some good points. There are decent footy teams in the NRL, some very good teams including Cronulla and Melbourne, who will be in the 8 and competing for Top 4. Which is why we can no longer afford to have a 10 week identity crisis in attack and go 2-8, 3-7, etc. at the start of the season and then suddenly turn it on at the back end of the year. We give other teams too much of a head start and then we are reliant on winning 3-4 very high tempo, high quality games in a row to get us into GF/premiership contention, which at this point is impossible given no team has ever been able to do that. There is growing into a season and then there is being at two extremes. Playing like rubbish for 10 weeks and then all of a sudden winning a lot of games shows the talent was always there, but poor tactics and attitude prevented us from picking up another 3-4 wins and securing Top 4.

The kicking metres stat is an excellent snapshot of some of our worries though. Especially comparing our B2B years where we were Top 4 both years to being bottom or close to bottom the last 2 seasons. Huge issue with Sam and Kez and no dummy half who can boot us out of trouble sometimes like Friend could.

It's not just the media though. When the club is known as an elite organisation who prides itself on on-field performance and a history of success with the motto "We play for premierships" we are held at a different standard to a struggling/inconsistent club and rightfully so.

In terms of your spine rankings, I'd personally put us 2nd to only Melbourne when at full strength player for player.

[rented tracksuit]

Robbo is not the Roosters.

The Roosters have been around since 1908 & have a proud traditional history with many great players & coaches.

Robbo's is a Rooster hall of famer coach with 3 premierships in 7yrs & will always be loved for that.

But he is paid like anyone else involved at the club for doing his job & producing results.

Nobody has a call on when their time is up if they don't produce satisfactory results.

And to take it further, it’s currently 3 perms in 10 years.

[rented tracksuit]

For all the time I’ve followed the Chooks there has been no coach who has brought spirit to the club like Robbo.
Jack, Sticky & Graham Murray brought spirit but not for 10 years so that’s why I say Robbo is the Roosters.

He will have the call on when he finishes up, you’ll see.

So you are saying he overrides Uncle Nick?

If Nick doesn’t see results, Nicks pulls the trigger.

[Eggspert]

So you are saying he overrides Uncle Nick?

If Nick doesn’t see results, Nicks pulls the trigger.

Some would say Uncle Nick is the Roosters.

Uncle Nick loves Robbo but will he let it get to the point of 3 premierships in 15yrs ?

No chance.

[Eggspert]

For all the time I’ve followed the Chooks there has been no coach who has brought spirit to the club like Robbo.
Jack, Sticky & Graham Murray brought spirit but not for 10 years so that’s why I say Robbo is the Roosters.

He will have the call on when he finishes up, you’ll see.

I personally don't think Robbo will be here if we don't win another premiership in the next 3-4yrs.

[Rooster36]

I personally don't think Robbo will be here if we don't win another premiership in the next 3-4yrs.

Another who is loving when we lose …

[Rooster1908]

Another who is loving when we lose …

What your saying makes no sense .He only stated he doesn't believe that without success Nick wont keep him ,

[Eggspert]

What your saying makes no sense .He only stated he doesn't believe that without success Nick wont keep him ,

The love Robbo at all costs Mafia is strange.

Dunno who they expect criticism to be aimed at if no success continues in the next couple of years.

The ball boy? Mascot? The guy selling hotdogs out the front?

[Rooster1908]

The love Robbo at all costs Mafia is strange.

Dunno who they expect criticism to be aimed at if no success continues in the next couple of years.

The ball boy? Mascot? The guy selling hotdogs out the front?

The Ref id reckon