Walker dropped

[Qld Chook]

I don’t understand all the hysteria & arguing over Robbo.

He is our coach and I think we all respect him and appreciate all he has done for our club but it doesn’t mean we have to agree with his team selections.

It’s obvious to all he has made some errors in judgement. As fans all we want is for him to rectify them before it’s too late for this season. There is no point in taking pot shots at each other.

[elo]

...and as I said at the time, Robbo saying he would be ready after the bye was ridiculous. Now reported Walker is at least another 2-3 weeks away.......

There's a communication breakdown somewhere, Walker hadn't even seen the specialist and Robbo was making predictions on Sam's return.

Hopefully the bye and Central Coast training camp does some wonders as it did last season, we need to turn this around immediately.

[Vasco]

Did Robbo actually say he'd be back next game? He rarely speculates about a players' return from injury.

[BillyBonkers]

Won’t get crucified by me, I think that’s a reasonable suggestion. I do think if 6 games was enough for Robinson to take action on the halves issues though he will have had to of looked at how ineffective Suaalii has been to date as well.

Look I understand Robbo's stance on Suaalii at centre, maybe once he is a little more confident he could develop on the lines of Latrell, i agree at this stage he'd probably should be on the wing. Still reckon he'd develop into a good running lock, why not give it a go ?

[Bates]

Did Robbo actually say he'd be back next game? He rarely speculates about a players' return from injury.

He's made a miraculous recovery. Chomping at the bit.

[zac]

True you can't predict injuries.

But Robbo dropped him & he got injured in reserves & not 1st grade. That fact can't be changed.

Robbo's dropping decision & now the injury have had definite bad consequences for the team.

Nothing in Robbo's decisions have had positive consequences imo.

robbo dropped walker before walker got injured but the dropping didn't cause walker's injury.
the coach has the right to pick the team he wants - should he have factored an increase likelihood of walker getting injured playing reserves? no. it was just bad luck.

[Bates]

Look I understand Robbo's stance on Suaalii at centre, maybe once he is a little more confident he could develop on the lines of Latrell, i agree at this stage he'd probably should be on the wing. Still reckon he'd develop into a good running lock, why not give it a go ?

Hi Billy, Do you think he has the physicality and skillset to play lock?

[ism22]

Sam was fine at 5/8 last year, it was Keary’s inability to adapt as a halfback as to why the partnership failed and why Keary dropped his organisational responsibilities.

I'm still yet to hear a coherent explanation of what the 2 different numbers mean.

In a bygone era (where everything was based off scrum formation & set plays were far more predictable) I think the difference was far more obvious. Further if you're an arrogant fark like Joey Johns then 'the 7 owns the result' (just after he's had a good game and won). No chance Freddy was equally responsible... blah blah blah.

Today I think Robbo's even said it that other than expecting the 7 to be more of a leader, there's not much to it. As such, I don't see THAT much point talking about swapping the same human beings between #6 and #7. Such debates are endless and IMO what we want outta both of them is for them to play heads up footy & call GOOD plays. Doesn't matter what number they're wearing. We want BOTH Walker and Keary to be identifying try scoring situations early and having the confidence to call them (plus the competence to execute them.

Right now the competence is lacking from both, so their confidence has also taken a hit and it's this blasted downwards spiral of the two that we're copping. I WISH that the solution was as simple as switching around the 6/7 jerseys!!!!

[BillyBonkers]

Hi Billy, Do you think he has the physicality and skillset to play lock?

Yes certainly do, very much develop/grow into a into a good running lock, regardless of the not so flash performance of late/ he has an intimidating presence, skills will follow with experience, why not dare to think he could be an explosive runner as per Ron Coote ?

No doubt my suggestion will scoffed at as an opinion of a idiot, so be it, that's fine, I do have the odd moment of lucidity in my madness though.

I don't believe for a moment that Suualli is not bothering to put in because he's scored a lucrative cash bonanza, do you think for a moment that Robbo would tolerate that.

[mightyrooster]

robbo dropped walker before walker got injured but the dropping didn't cause walker's injury.
the coach has the right to pick the team he wants - should he have factored an increase likelihood of walker getting injured playing reserves? no. it was just bad luck.

Lol Zac, stopping talking sense. I mean by some posters logic every time a player is injured in firsts it must be Robbo’s fault for not dropping them from the team. We may have avoided a few ACLs in recent years if Robbo was smart enough not to select them and dumped them to reserves instead.

[Bates]

Yes certainly do, very much develop/grow into a into a good running lock, regardless of the not so flash performance of late/ he has an intimidating presence, skills will follow with experience, why not dare to think he could be an explosive runner as per Ron Coote ?

No doubt my suggestion will scoffed at as an opinion of a idiot, so be it, that's fine, I do have the odd moment of lucidity in my madness though.

I don't believe for a moment that Suualli is not bothering to put in because he's scored a lucrative cash bonanza, do you think for a moment that Robbo would tolerate that.

6ft 5 in and 98kg. He still looks like a puppy that hasn't fully developed. Scary!

[A Country Member]

Yes certainly do, very much develop/grow into a into a good running lock, regardless of the not so flash performance of late/ he has an intimidating presence, skills will follow with experience, why not dare to think he could be an explosive runner as per Ron Coote ?

No doubt my suggestion will scoffed at as an opinion of a idiot, so be it, that's fine, I do have the odd moment of lucidity in my madness though.

I don't believe for a moment that Suualli is not bothering to put in because he's scored a lucrative cash bonanza, do you think for a moment that Robbo would tolerate that.

You’re just bonkers Billy. The idiot is the poster above you

[King Salvo]

I'm still yet to hear a coherent explanation of what the 2 different numbers mean.

In a bygone era (where everything was based off scrum formation & set plays were far more predictable) I think the difference was far more obvious. Further if you're an arrogant fark like Joey Johns then 'the 7 owns the result' (just after he's had a good game and won). No chance Freddy was equally responsible... blah blah blah.

Today I think Robbo's even said it that other than expecting the 7 to be more of a leader, there's not much to it. As such, I don't see THAT much point talking about swapping the same human beings between #6 and #7. Such debates are endless and IMO what we want outta both of them is for them to play heads up footy & call GOOD plays. Doesn't matter what number they're wearing. We want BOTH Walker and Keary to be identifying try scoring situations early and having the confidence to call them (plus the competence to execute them.

Right now the competence is lacking from both, so their confidence has also taken a hit and it's this blasted downwards spiral of the two that we're copping. I WISH that the solution was as simple as switching around the 6/7 jerseys!!!!

There is a difference though

The old days the 6 would play outside the 7 and you also had inside and outside centres playing on the same side of the field - mmm the silky passing skills of Johnny Brass passing the ball to the rampaging Mark Harris.

7's have traditional been your play makers / organising half and 6's your running half and link to the backs - think Sterlo and Burt Kenny

The half back traditionally was responsible for organising the set and distributing to the forwards.- When it was time to go wide/expansive footy the ball would be passed to the 5/8 to do their thing. - 5/8's with their speed and link to the backs role.

Fullbacks nowadays play like a second half or 5/8 whereas back in the day they would chose their moments to chime into the backline or be a support or push support player for line breaks through the middle

7's and 6's nowadays tend to play on different sides of the field a lot in offense but one will still be the chief play maker (usually the 7) and whom the the dummy half will more often pass the ball to.- You can't have both demanding the ball first up from the dummy half.

For play makers/ organising halves line engagements is a key KPI - digging into the line as they call - they pass before the line and sometimes in the line - not a role for the feint hearted as you are going to be whacked by the D after you pass the ball more often than not.

5/8's use their speed to take on the line as well as being a link to the outside backs

Hence the dilemma with Walker and Keary - both running halves and neither a play maker organising half prepared to dig into the line.

Too late for Keary to be this but not for Walker.

He has one of the best of recent times to learn the play making /organising/game management role from in Cooper Cronk

Cronk at 178 cm and 89 kgs had a 16 year career in the NRL.

Can't see Walker at 183 cm and 78 kg's lasting even half that long unless he put's on the Kg's not withstanding aspects of his game he needs to improve on and add too - D/ Organising and Game Management/ Kicking and Structure - Coaches love structured Footy

[nayfo]

Just for accuracy, Walker said he injured it in the Warriors game in reserve grade:

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/i-m...13-p5d84u.html

As per your quote, the Roosters told AAP that he injured it at training.

So Eggspert’s point still stands. He was injured in a game he shouldn’t have been playing in.

Turns out Google isn’t always right.

[zac]

Lol Zac, stopping talking sense. I mean by some posters logic every time a player is injured in firsts it must be Robbo’s fault for not dropping them from the team. We may have avoided a few ACLs in recent years if Robbo was smart enough not to select them and dumped them to reserves instead.

i mean, i get where the anti-robbo sentiment is coming from. but a coach gets too much kudos when a team does well and too much hatred when it doesn't.