Robbo v Hook

[NorfolkStreetKid]

St George just sacked their coach.
They have won 2 from 10, bad right ?
We have won 5 from 10.
It could so easily be very different.
We are 10th and they are 16th.
They lost 3 games by 2 points, and one by one point.
We won one game by 2 points and one by one point.
They have scored 51 more points than us this season.
They have a 18 point better for and against than us.
They scored more tries than us when they lost to us on Anzac Day.
In the last 2 weeks we are down 68 to 10, they are 60 to 36.
If we had lost those two close games, and they had won their 4 close ones, they would be on 6 wins, and we would be on 3.
They would be 8th and we would be 16th.
But their coach is shiit right, and ours is a guru.

[MKCS]

To be fair to Robbo who I also agree is underperforming he has had a much better career than Anthony Griffin. Griffin's best season was a preliminary final in 2011 whilst Robbo does legitimately have runs on the board.

[Bates]

Robbo has the runs on the board with 3 premierships and numerous club records broken under his tenure. Plus, you always get the impression that another premiership isn't too far away. I'm optimistic about 2024/25.

Hook has been skating on thin ice for some time and has won zip as the head coach of numerous clubs.

Apples and oranges.

[mightyrooster]

Luke Keary said something interesting on NRL 360 the other night. He said we were 5 and 5 at Round 10 in 2018 and everyone was commenting about how bad the Cronk signing was. We know how that season ended. Comparing Robbo to Hook is crazy as they are chalk and cheese.

[Steggles]

Luke Keary said something interesting on NRL 360 the other night. He said we were 5 and 5 at Round 10 in 2018 and everyone was commenting about how bad the Cronk signing was. We know how that season ended. Comparing Robbo to Hook is crazy as they are chalk and cheese.

Keary’s not quite right. We were 6 wins, 4 losses at round 10 in 2018.

Our biggest loss in those games was a 24 point belting by the Warriors; we had also lost to Wests by 2, Souffs by 12 and Saints by 16. We had also beaten the Dogs by 18, Newcastle by 30, the Sharks by 18, the Dogs again by 6, Manly by 2 and the Warriors again by 32. it’s fair to say our results were mixed with some bigs wins and a few bad losses; on balance not bad. We had scored 194 points, conceded 140 for +54.

Let’s not get our hopes up based on what Keary said; 2023 is absolutely nothing like 2018. We’ve had 4 much closer wins this year, a bye and hidings against Storm, Cows and Penrith. Points for 157, against 222 for -65. The bye has made our defence stats look better than they are compared to 2018. Our attack is significantly worse than the same time in 2018, but it is our defence that has really fallen off the edge of a cliff, which I believe is a combination of players out of position and an issue with attitude within the playing group.

Early 2018 was a team learning to play with a new general, but the effort was there and it eventually clicked. 2023 looks and feels different; yes there’s a new 9 but the same effort and desire just isn’t there.

[Dr. Voodoo Man]

Hook is a bum. The bloke has only failed as a first grade coach.

[HunchoRooster]

Hook is a bum. The bloke has only failed as a first grade coach.

Harsh to call him a bum. I'm pretty sure before he joined St George he had made the finals 6 out of 7 seasons with Bronx and Riff, not exactly "failing". Especially given Cleary came in with exact same squad the following year and ran well outside the 8 before they went on the big run of success once the juniors came in.

He is obviously a decent coach but nowhere near Robinson's class, definitely better than some though.

[King Salvo]

10 years of Robbo

Finals appearances - 9
Premierships - 3
World Club Challenges - 3

After 11 rounds

Current Comp Leaders on 16 - 3 losses each
Roosters on 12 - 5 losses

14 Regular Season games to go

Get a grip doom and gloomers , sky is falling and rock solid as liquid water crowd

I've said it many a time be thankful the above folk and anti-robbo crowd have zero say on anything football related at the Roosters as it would surely be a disaster if they ever did - be a different team after every loss and a revolving door of different coaches throughout the year.

[Dr. Voodoo Man]

Harsh to call him a bum. I'm pretty sure before he joined St George he had made the finals 6 out of 7 seasons with Bronx and Riff, not exactly "failing". Especially given Cleary came in with exact same squad the following year and ran well outside the 8 before they went on the big run of success once the juniors came in.

He is obviously a decent coach but nowhere near Robinson's class, definitely better than some though.

He is a non-winner and always will be. Ask St. George supporters if he is a bum.

[Steakface]

10 years of Robbo

Finals appearances - 9
Premierships - 3
World Club Challenges - 3

After 11 rounds

Current Comp Leaders on 16 - 3 losses each
Roosters on 12 - 5 losses

14 Regular Season games to go

Get a grip doom and gloomers , sky is falling and rock solid as liquid water crowd

I've said it many a time be thankful the above folk and anti-robbo crowd have zero say on anything football related at the Roosters as it would surely be a disaster if they ever did - be a different team after every loss and a revolving door of different coaches throughout the year.

The doom and gloomers seem to have a combination of the following traits:

- short attention spans
- no loyalty
- hindsight revisionism
- whataboutism

This thread was written with the premise (or implication) that because St George sacked Hook, we should also do the same to Robbo because our March-May statistics are worse.

I mean, good grief.

I hope Robbo and the lads, of they visit here at all (unlikely), have nothing but a good laugh at such posts.

The Chook Pen is more and more reading like the works of those in an insane asylum.

[mightyrooster]

10 years of Robbo

Finals appearances - 9
Premierships - 3
World Club Challenges - 3

After 11 rounds

Current Comp Leaders on 16 - 3 losses each
Roosters on 12 - 5 losses

14 Regular Season games to go

Get a grip doom and gloomers , sky is falling and rock solid as liquid water crowd

I've said it many a time be thankful the above folk and anti-robbo crowd have zero say on anything football related at the Roosters as it would surely be a disaster if they ever did - be a different team after every loss and a revolving door of different coaches throughout the year.

Hey, I’m one of the ‘above folk’ who just commented and it wasn’t anti Robbo or doom and gloom. I’m one of Trent’s biggest fans.

[mightyrooster]

Keary’s not quite right. We were 6 wins, 4 losses at round 10 in 2018.

Our biggest loss in those games was a 24 point belting by the Warriors; we had also lost to Wests by 2, Souffs by 12 and Saints by 16. We had also beaten the Dogs by 18, Newcastle by 30, the Sharks by 18, the Dogs again by 6, Manly by 2 and the Warriors again by 32. it’s fair to say our results were mixed with some bigs wins and a few bad losses; on balance not bad. We had scored 194 points, conceded 140 for +54.

Let’s not get our hopes up based on what Keary said; 2023 is absolutely nothing like 2018. We’ve had 4 much closer wins this year, a bye and hidings against Storm, Cows and Penrith. Points for 157, against 222 for -65. The bye has made our defence stats look better than they are compared to 2018. Our attack is significantly worse than the same time in 2018, but it is our defence that has really fallen off the edge of a cliff, which I believe is a combination of players out of position and an issue with attitude within the playing group.

Early 2018 was a team learning to play with a new general, but the effort was there and it eventually clicked. 2023 looks and feels different; yes there’s a new 9 but the same effort and desire just isn’t there.

You make some good points and I agree the situation feels worse than what it did at this time in 2018, but the general gist of what Kez was saying is don’t give up on them just yet.

[Headless Chook]

Keary’s not quite right. We were 6 wins, 4 losses at round 10 in 2018.

Our biggest loss in those games was a 24 point belting by the Warriors; we had also lost to Wests by 2, Souffs by 12 and Saints by 16. We had also beaten the Dogs by 18, Newcastle by 30, the Sharks by 18, the Dogs again by 6, Manly by 2 and the Warriors again by 32. it’s fair to say our results were mixed with some bigs wins and a few bad losses; on balance not bad. We had scored 194 points, conceded 140 for +54.

Let’s not get our hopes up based on what Keary said; 2023 is absolutely nothing like 2018. We’ve had 4 much closer wins this year, a bye and hidings against Storm, Cows and Penrith. Points for 157, against 222 for -65. The bye has made our defence stats look better than they are compared to 2018. Our attack is significantly worse than the same time in 2018, but it is our defence that has really fallen off the edge of a cliff, which I believe is a combination of players out of position and an issue with attitude within the playing group.

Early 2018 was a team learning to play with a new general, but the effort was there and it eventually clicked. 2023 looks and feels different; yes there’s a new 9 but the same effort and desire just isn’t there.

That's a pretty fair summation of where we are. The problem is the current squad is nowhere near as talented or as deep as the 2018 team

[Steggles]

You make some good points and I agree the situation feels worse than what it did at this time in 2018, but the general gist of what Kez was saying is don’t give up on them just yet.

I’ll never give up on them; ever. Just wanted to use some facts to highlight where we really are at. My head isn’t in the sand like many others around here who would prefer to ignore reality.

[Steggles]

That's a pretty fair summation of where we are. The problem is the current squad is nowhere near as talented or as deep as the 2018 team

I think you’re on the money there.