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  • #16
    Williamson...another under 20s myth. We have no depth and not one under 20 thats a first grader.
    Alcohol never solved any life problems.....then again neither did milk.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Cockadoodledoo View Post
      Toyota Cup is shit.. Newtown is definitely better.. Have a watch of our tinpot U20's team.. They are garbage.. Their coach is a spastic and none of them can tackle.
      I take your point as a valid one Cockadoodledoo, but may you be kind enough to inform me as to why FOXsports do not have the Premier league (NSW cup) aired rather than Toyota cup.

      I would think if it was better viewing, they would change these competitions around to suit the coverage of games ?

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Hugh Jorgan View Post
        I take your point as a valid one Cockadoodledoo, but may you be kind enough to inform me as to why FOXsports do not have the Premier league (NSW cup) aired rather than Toyota cup.

        I would think if it was better viewing, they would change these competitions around to suit the coverage of games ?
        They do cover it. They show one game each week.

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        • #19
          Williamson will be lucky to get a run this year. Unless there is an injury to Graham or SKD. But in that case, Jones appears to be the replacement

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Headless Chook View Post
            They do cover it. They show one game each week.
            Opposed to 8 Toyota cup games. You'd barely call 1 game a week "coverage".

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Hugh Jorgan View Post
              Opposed to 8 Toyota cup games. You'd barely call 1 game a week "coverage".
              I didn't say it was great coverage!

              And they don't show 8 Toyota Cup games either. They usually only show 2.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Headless Chook View Post

                And they don't show 8 Toyota Cup games either. They usually only show 2.
                I stand corrected

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                • #23
                  The toyota cup concept is a winner. The only thing they need to do is change it to under 23s.

                  It's very hard to judge a player at that age. Sure, you get freaks here and there but the majority will have their confidence dented and we will never hear from them again, despite obvious talent eg. Tuigamala

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Hugh Jorgan View Post
                    I take your point as a valid one Cockadoodledoo, but may you be kind enough to inform me as to why FOXsports do not have the Premier league (NSW cup) aired rather than Toyota cup.

                    I would think if it was better viewing, they would change these competitions around to suit the coverage of games ?
                    Well given that Toyota Cup is played at the same ground as the NRL matches it is cheaper from a cost persective to set up the cameras etc.. Additionally from a marketing view point. It is alot easier to get interest from the viewing public when showing a Toyota Cup match between the Bulldogs and the Eels as compared to Sydney Bulls v Wentworthville.
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by BigMike View Post
                      The toyota cup concept is a winner. The only thing they need to do is change it to under 23s.

                      It's very hard to judge a player at that age. Sure, you get freaks here and there but the majority will have their confidence dented and we will never hear from them again, despite obvious talent eg. Tuigamala
                      Has to be under 23's, players aren't physically developed always at 20 and you get late bloomers. I think it can be a bit disheartening playing out at NSW Cup venues wearing a different clubs colours in front of a few hundred people. I hope the bit about Tuigamala is a joke.
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by BigMike View Post
                        The toyota cup concept is a winner. The only thing they need to do is change it to under 23s.

                        It's very hard to judge a player at that age. Sure, you get freaks here and there but the majority will have their confidence dented and we will never hear from them again, despite obvious talent eg. Tuigamala
                        Totally agree with the lifting of the age limit to 23. The step up to FG is too big for most U20s players and sometimes their bodies are not up to the rigours.
                        "The price of freedom is eternal vigilance."

                        Thomas Jefferson

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by BigMike View Post
                          The toyota cup concept is a winner. The only thing they need to do is change it to under 23s.

                          It's very hard to judge a player at that age. Sure, you get freaks here and there but the majority will have their confidence dented and we will never hear from them again, despite obvious talent eg. Tuigamala
                          There shouldnt be an age limit. Toyota cup should be a full blooded reserve grade division. If you aren't playing 1st grade, you should be playing 2nd grade. If you're not playing second grade, you should be playing NSW/QLD cup etc etc

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Cockadoodledoo View Post
                            Has to be under 23's, players aren't physically developed always at 20 and you get late bloomers. I think it can be a bit disheartening playing out at NSW Cup venues wearing a different clubs colours in front of a few hundred people. I hope the bit about Tuigamala is a joke.
                            I think Tuigamala was a perfect example of a player not mentally ready for first grade. He has had high expectations his whole career and is in Brian Smith's good books, there must be something right about he bloke. Plus the bloke is apparently quick as.

                            I wouldn't look too much into his debut games.

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                            • #29
                              The age limit needs to be lifted to Under 23's. The Toyota Cup is a great competition but I don't think it mentally prepares the young kids for NRL football. The mentality seems to be attacking football where if the opposition score 40 points, we'll score 42 to win the game. I think with the age moving up to 23, it will help prepare the players mentally before moving into the NRL ranks.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Hugh Jorgan View Post
                                Opposed to 8 Toyota cup games. You'd barely call 1 game a week "coverage".
                                $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ - that's why. Simple logistics. U20s is like watching Arrive Alive - but faster. Actually, Arrive Alive defence might be better.

                                Lack of defence in the U20s is not just a problem for our club.

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