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check out the full details on nrl .com. if this happens the roosters style of play will benefit tremendously.
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whats that? Sounds like somfin souffs do wiff passion popp!!!!!!!!!Originally posted by mothballs View PostComment
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Ok beguurk, love the enthusiasim, but if you are going to start threads about article, either add the article with the link, or even just the link.
it helps everyone understand where you are coming from.
Delecto Oriens est odio Meridianus
To love Easts is to hate Souffs
Originally posted by Bill Shankley, Liverpool FCOriginally posted by Andy Raymond Commentating Souffs V Manly 18/04/09Comment
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If i could i would, I'm just the messenger if they can't follow simple instruction they can"t be helped.This is all new to me!Originally posted by supermario View Post
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Hollywood talking tough, yet still claims he got the Dean Young try in the Grand Final 100% right eventhough it was a clear knock on that even Stevie Wonder could see......and let's not forget him putting Conn on report which was instantly dismissed by the review committee as it was not a reportable offence.
**** off Billy.Comment
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Hollywood Bill will find a way to ensure that this rule harms usComment
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It's about time players are made to play the ball on the mark. I was over hearing the refs call "he shortened the 10". That allowed for super quick play the balls and caused the markers to be offsideComment
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Just cut and paste it Begurk.Originally posted by beguurk View PostIf i could i would, I'm just the messenger if they can't follow simple instruction they can"t be helped.This is all new to me!Comment
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Raper and Harrigan were part of the rotten Finch refereeing setup. Their many 'interpretations' confuse the issue and immerse the referees in so much red-tape that there is no room for common sense.
As elo says, they continue to stand behind some inexplicable decision. There is a culture, amongst the referees, that they are more interested in justifying incompetence and covering their arses rather than promoting accountability by admitting errors. They should be identifying areas of error and inconsistency are working hard to fix them.FONKComment
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New NRL referees boss Bill Harrigan has defended not revisiting the grounding rule ahead of the new season, following a spate of controversies in 2010.
Harrigan and his assistant Stuart Raper, who take over from Robert Finch, insist they will get referees to adopt a "back to basics" approach, following a meeting with NRL coaches in Sydney on Wednesday.
Harrigan told the 10 head coaches that attended the meeting at ANZ Stadium, that among the changes referees will enforce, include the on-side rule at restarts, and players being penalised for not playing the ball on the mark.
He also insists scrums will be properly bound and players must not break until the referee has called the ball out.
However, Harrigan said the grounding of tries, which has polarised opinions in recent seasons, is here to stay until someone can come up with something better.
Commentators and supporters have expressed frustration about tries being awarded when a ball rolls down a player's arm, before being touched down by a fingernail, or when a try is given after being grounded with the chest.
But the controversial Harrigan said the current interpretation is here to stay.
"I need something definitive in all aspects of scoring a try," he said.
"Of all the people I have spoken to: ex-players, ex-coaches, referees, current players, coaches, commentators, about grounding the ball, they have come up with nothing.
"You can throw off another example, but every time it comes back to shoot you in the foot. Define what downward pressure is? What is force?
"Until we get something definitive it is best to stick with what you have."
Harrigan also insisted referees would maintain standards from week one until the end of the season.
Coaches have accused officials of being inconsistent over the course of a season, but Harrigan warned referees were on notice to perform from March to October.
"With the guidelines there will be no let-up from round oneto 26 and the finals," he said.
"In the past we said we were going to do things, like tidy up the scrums, but by round five or six, we as referees, dropped the ball, and the scrums became untidy again.
"That won't happen this year if referees don't do it, they will be on thin ice and I'll bring in someone who is willing to do it."
Cronulla coach Shane Flanagan said he would have plenty of work to do on the training field to ensure his players were up to speed for the new campaign.
"There will be a fair few penalties in the early rounds of the season, especially around the play-the-balls and the scrums and we will have to get used to them." Flanagan said.
"I will be happy to see the changes stay, but as long as it is from rounds one to 26."
Sydney Roosters coach Brian Smith, was more succinct in his assessment of the meeting.
"There's nothing new, Billy told us the rules, and now we all know," he quipped.Comment
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"Define what downward pressure is? What is force?"
Change the wording if nobody can work with the current one. As the boss of all the refs, if you don't know what "force" or "downwards pressure" are then how can you use such words to justify your decisions while holding a straight face?Comment
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To be fair, I don't think it's possible to agree on a worded description of what it is 'force', 'downward pressure', etc.Originally posted by ism22 View Post
But good referees should have a deft understanding of the game whereby they recognise what is a try and what isn't. A single fingernail on the corner of the footy, while perhaps fulfilling some convoluted definition, isn't a footy try.
Unfortunately in the context of video scrutiny and poor refereeing standards, this common sense/rule-of-thumb approach isn't feasible.FONKComment
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