Gould earns my respect again for dumping on Gallop

[Guest]

Both sides of Journos are self serving egomaniacs... to not like one doesnt mean you support the other

[Guest]

I couldnt careless about Penrith But look at how their roster has changed for next year ever since saviour Gould took over and its clearly weaker...

[Kingbilly]

All is not cut and dried and probably not what it seems.


I can tell you that I honestly believe David Gallop has the interests of the game at heart. He loves the game and would love to do nothing more than see the game grow in the best possible way. The only question I believe relates to whether he is able to do what he really wants to.

Gould on the other hand, well "media clown" Gould on the other hand is being a prima dona. You either do it his way or you are an idiot and should be sacked. He does make some interesting points, but in my experience of reading and listening to him, the stuff that made sense is usually someone else's idea and he is usually only lucid when commenting in hindsite.

The "real" Phil Gould has the game at heart I have no doubt, but the circus clown does not. I would love the "real" Gould to come forward and stop playing the "Clown" to hear what the man has to say not the goose that is selling newspapers.


I see "clown" Gould as almost the ultimate internet forum commentator. Just like many of us his posts are often gibberish and silly and all just a lot of fun. Then like some of us he gets carried away, but like us he only confides his real thoughts to his mates.

[player 1]

Gus is a handful. Because he is no fool, he can't be dismissed as a malevolent, ignorant, purely personal vendetta-driven tool. Like Rothfield.

He drinks too much I suspect, and that clouds the judgement over what he says. And I do think he still has baggage over his performance at Easts. He shouldn't. The Gould Easts were an entertaining, attack focused unit that could easily have won a couple of premmies. It didn't happen. Look at the decade of excellence DVD, the likes of Fittler (he would never have come to Easts if not for Gould), Andrew Walker, Adrian Lam (yes he underperformed in the finals), a great attacking team that still troubled the likes of Brisbane and Newcastle even though we lacked their big boppers, purely on the back of attacking brilliance. Although I have criticized him many times, he ushered in a great era for us. With a bit more luck he could have bagged us a couple of titles.

I do think he harbored a jealousy for his replacements (Murray who coached them to the Gf in 2000 - that game was closer than people remember 14-6 to the broncs), and Stuart's premiership in 2002. He had a hand in the demise of both those coaches due to his influence on Politis.

Obviously the vendetta against Gallop goes way back. Politis hates Gallop too. But Gus' criticism of Gallop's handling and punishment of the Storm over their "2 sets of books" salary cap cheating is an example of his grudge and the booze getting in the way of rationalism. Storm blatantly cheated and deserved to be docked. The hatred of their fans and management towards Gallop over this is misguided, for the above reasons, and for the very pertinent reason that they are in the box seat to take out the 2011 title with almost the same squad they got pinged for last year, minus Greg Inglis. What exactly is their problem with this?

Gus is a great reader of the game, in spite of his sometimes frequent idiotic behaviour as a ch 9 commentator.

I do wish he had had the balls to actually take the coaching job at the panthers, instead of coaching director. That was IMHO a cop-out, albeit a highly lucrative and less responsible (and accountable) job than actual coach.

My intuition is that taking aim at Gallop (a figure I personally despise) over the "terrorist" comments, calling for his sacking over this, was an opportunistic cheap shot. It appeared agenda-driven. And Manly? Well I think all along they have carried on like a bunch of paranoid cry-babies over the Brett Stewart "affair". But since I was a kid, that has always been Manly's style. They do not hold the moral high ground over that drink and grope incident, and I think maintaining their idiotic rage and victim mentality over that 4 week suspension all that time ago (which was for being as pissed as a newt, not for the unproven charge of pashing and fingering a fat retard) will not help their finals campaign. Lockyer not playing this weekend sure will though.

[novice chook]

At least Gallop has the game's interest at heart. The same definitely cannot be said for Gould - it's always been about what's best for Gould, never about what's best for the game itself.

Gould has plenty of gripes about those running the game, but no realistic solution to assist those running the game.

Gould has no scruples and no principles. It's all about what's benefits him and those he is connected with.

If he could get the Panthers a premiership by successfully rorting the cap, he would do it in a heartbeat. That's the type of bloke he is.

NC

[John Corey]

The responses on this thread typify my frustrations with league

The boring, idiotic stupid masses criticize Gould.

Not his message.

They berate him and not his content.

There you go again. Just because people do not agree with you, there is no need to have a hissy fit. Most threads I read criticised his content, including mine. His points may be valid in relation to the cap, but that does not excuse his defending of the Storm for their blatant cheating. They are 2 seperate issues. The cap... and then the cheating. And the boring, stupid minority criticise us for not condoning cheating, which typifys our frustration with league. Hmmmm ... heard that before?

[Guest]

Gould has an extremely narrow point of view and holds to it regardless of whether he is right or wrong. And in that regard he is exactly the same as those within News Limited he berates. Trew you've chosen a side in this cat fight based on personal preference, not what's best for the game of Rugby League.

Gallop is a News Limited lacky whose tenure has been one long failure to make effective use of the product. The game should be more accessible online. We should be gouging the betting agencies who are gouging the fans. That said, Gould is also an agenda driven opportunist without any long term strategy for the game. I hold neither in any regard. And the fact Gus's most recent tirade against Gallop game not because of something he done or failed to do, but something he said, demonstrates the weakness of Gus's argument.

Even with the IC, we will never be rid of the News Limited influence until Gallop is gone.
Even with the IC, Gus will not stop whinging and complaining and pushing his hypocritical barrow.

Chook.

[Johnny Tobin]

Your opinion of Gould swings like a pendulum.

[trewhella]

Indeed,

Love him,hate him.

The pendulum.

[Guest]

Yes, but don't mention that

It's funny for someone who has an opinion on everything you went remarkably quiet on the Rothfield wanting Carney story.

[Guest]

There you go again. Just because people do not agree with you, there is no need to have a hissy fit. Most threads I read criticised his content, including mine. His points may be valid in relation to the cap, but that does not excuse his defending of the Storm for their blatant cheating. They are 2 seperate issues. The cap... and then the cheating. And the boring, stupid minority criticise us for not condoning cheating, which typifys our frustration with league. Hmmmm ... heard that before?

Careful mate the Gimp will put you on ignore if you don't agree with him.

[trewhella]

I am absolutely fine with people taking an opposite point of view to me.

You are just a malevolent, childish bore.
I find you so predictable and banal that I cringe when I read your thoughts.

The fact that you have become fixated on me disturbs me somewhat.
You may well bore me to death and that's why you are/were on ignore.

[Guest]

I am absolutely fine with people taking an opposite point of view to me.

You are just a malevolent, childish bore.
I find you so predictable and banal that I cringe when I read your thoughts.

The fact that you have become fixated on me disturbs me somewhat.
You may well bore me to death and that's why you are/were on ignore.

You are a clown period. You think your opinions carry weight when they are as light as paper. You obviously enjoy flattering yourself.

[Pass the Ball]

The responses on this thread typify my frustrations with league

It is what I love about the game and this forum..

The fact that you can have two contrasting opinions that are both right in the minds of the holders...

And I think you will find the bigger boring masses hate Gallop more than Gould...

[trewhella]

There you go again. Just because people do not agree with you, there is no need to have a hissy fit. Most threads I read criticised his content, including mine. His points may be valid in relation to the cap, but that does not excuse his defending of the Storm for their blatant cheating. They are 2 seperate issues. The cap... and then the cheating. And the boring, stupid minority criticise us for not condoning cheating, which typifys our frustration with league. Hmmmm ... heard that before?

Go through and read this thread and tell me how many people actually considered the main issue and that is that David Gallop is a news limited puppet and he should not be controlling league with a view on negotiating the long term tv deal for rugby league.
He has always and will always do what he is told by Rupert.

The fact that the independent commission has not been realized prior to this deal sickens me.

Yes, Gould jumped on a side issue but the crux of his tirade remains centered around removing Gallop for obvious reasons.

Did anyone else notice that Ricky Stuart wrote an article in a similar vein that same day.

Did anyone else notice that Gould was not permitted to mention his views on the Sunday Roast for fear of rocking the boat with Upcoming negotiations.
Clearly, David Gyngell doesn't have thes tones to back his man.