Boyd Cordner

[Tommy Smith]

Friend is in the same boat.

Yep.

He's gone somewhat under the radar for his headknocks but he's copped 4 or 5 himself over the past few months; including one on Wednesday.

Personally I think both Jake & Boyd have one season left in them, at best.

Two absolute warriors who have genuinely damaged their bodies and minds in pursuit of success at our club.

[Mad_Rabid_Rooster]

This is a good and important thread Teddy, well done.

I like your saying - health is wealth - very true indeed.

In terms of Boyd, Luke and Jake, I am not going to sit here and comment on their conditions, as I am not qualified to.

However, I will say that I think Boyd in particular should not have played that first Origin game - not because of his head but because of form. As much as I love him, like most on here do, his form did not warrant selection IMHO. His condition and recent history did not help his cause. In my view, it was careless to have even contemplated that he play.

In terms of his outlook, I think the first step should be that he have a prolonged rest period - perhaps six months - to buy him, his family and others concerned time to determine where his condition is up to and what should be done going forward. Despite what has been happening, I think he needs a good rest anyway, as he is overworked. Depending on what happens, the next step should be to retire from rep footy. Following this, he may need to consider retiring fully, but, again, others are in a much better position than me to make those sorts of decisions. I think a careful, considered, gradual approach is the best way to proceed given what we think.

I agree with earlier comments that our club is very well placed to make decisions on players - our track record proves that. I only want the best for Boyd and his long term health. He needs to think about life after footy - it is a long time, especially if you are likely to experience side effects.

On the other two, I also wish them well, but I am not as concerned about them, as I don't think they have suffered the same number of concussions at the same level of seriousness or intensity. I am confident that our club will also handle those situations with the upmost consideration and professionalism.

[mattyh]

This is a good and important thread Teddy, well done.

I like your saying - health is wealth - very true indeed.

In terms of Boyd, Luke and Jake, I am not going to sit here and comment on their conditions, as I am not qualified to.

However, I will say that I think Boyd in particular should not have played that first Origin game - not because of his head but because of form. As much as I love him, like most on here do, his form did not warrant selection IMHO. His condition and recent history did not help his cause. In my view, it was careless to have even contemplated that he play.

In terms of his outlook, I think the first step should be that he have a prolonged rest period - perhaps six months - to buy him, his family and others concerned time to determine where his condition is up to and what should be done going forward. Despite what has been happening, I think he needs a good rest anyway, as he is overworked. Depending on what happens, the next step should be to retire from rep footy. Following this, he may need to consider retiring fully, but, again, others are in a much better position than me to make those sorts of decisions. I think a careful, considered, gradual approach is the best way to proceed given what we think.

I agree with earlier comments that our club is very well placed to make decisions on players - our track record proves that. I only want the best for Boyd and his long term health. He needs to think about life after footy - it is a long time, especially if you are likely to experience side effects.

On the other two, I also wish them well, but I am not as concerned about them, as I don't think they have suffered the same number of concussions at the same level of seriousness or intensity. I am confident that our club will also handle those situations with the upmost consideration and professionalism.

well said, maybe give him the off-season train with boys, and say ok boyd you're sitting out the first 4 weeks of 2021.

[Thirteen]

well said, maybe give him the off-season train with boys, and say ok boyd you're sitting out the first 4 weeks of 2021.

I don’t want a player who is a part timer. It’s a business and there’s a salary cap. Can’t be paying players to knowingly miss games. You’re either in or you’re out.

[mattyh]

I don’t want a player who is a part timer. It’s a business and there’s a salary cap. Can’t be paying players to knowingly miss games. You’re either in or you’re out.

could pay him accordingly ? sit down next contract and say look boyd , well sign you but your only going to play 16 games, so instead of 800 you get 600 . if he doesn't sign , he doesn't sign. but he def needs a break , never , ever in a million years should he have played that origin game wed night. absolutely stupid, and a possible sign that nsw are now in deep trouble.

[Bansai Pipeline]

Three premierships, two Origin series, whatever else for the Roos. Bald at 28. What else does he have to prove?

What's the need to play on into your 30s anyway?

[Easts75]

Three premierships, two Origin series, whatever else for the Roos. Bald at 28. What else does he have to prove?

What's the need to play on into your 30s anyway?

Money.

[The Skeez]

Boyd runs the hardest lines and takes the toughest runs. He is the Australian captain. Massive respect.

The bloke who takes the next hit up/run after Boyd knows.

TC!

[The Skeez]

He can single handedly bring a side back into reckoning

[Bondicigar]

Hate to say it but it doesnt seem to take much of a knock these days to put Boyd into concussion territory. I Think he will retire and probably should.....
He is and dead set legend and would be sad to see but he can't keep getting knocked out .

[SupermanSupportsEasts4Eva]

You know that your time is up when so many former players and fans are calling for you to medically retire

Its like the gambler not quiting while they are ahead. Play on to long and ypu can lose it all

[ChookMaster]

Why Cordner could sit out all of next season

Sydney Roosters captain Boyd Cordner will be asked to consider sitting out the entire 2021 NRL season as he battles through the latest concussion drama that threatens to cut short his career.

The Herald has been told by sources close to Cordner that the likely option set to be posed to the NSW back-rower will be to sit out at least six months, potentially up to 12 months, before deciding whether to play rugby league again.

There are grave concerns over the health and welfare of the 28-year-old, with family and friends now pleading with him to consider taking an extended time out of the game to consider his future following Wednesday night's latest head knock in the State of Origin series opener.

The emotion of it is still raw, and the prospect of retirement doesn't sit well with Cordner, who is struggling with the idea of calling it quits with another three years to run on his deal with the Roosters.
This column has spoken to several of Cordner's closest confidantes, who all believe the back-rower needs some time away from the sport to properly consider his options and priorities without the emotion of the ordeal clouding his judgment.

The tragic death of his cousin Joel Dark earlier in the year following a head knock during a local first-grade game in Newcastle is still weighing heavily on Cordner's mind.

The innocuous collision with Queensland's Felise Kaufusi at the Adelaide Oval last week, coupled with Cordner's history of head knocks, appears to have decreased the level of impact required to trigger a concussion. There is a hope that an extended period out of the game without any contact sport may help him build up a resilience to head knocks. The hiatus could also provide him with time to realise that things may never change.

Cordner left the Blues bubble a few nights ago and has returned home, where friends and family have been offering their support. One of the conversations that will no doubt be had will be pointing out all he has achieved throughout a decorated career, achieving more before the age of 28 than most players could ever dream, including three premierships, three State of Origin series victories and a World Cup.

The first priority for the Roosters is Cordner's welfare, but there will come a time in the not too distant future where they will have to start thinking about the financial implications of having their $750,000-a-season captain sitting at home.
Like the Bulldogs did after Kieran Foran was injured playing for New Zealand at the end of last year, the Roosters will be entitled to apply to an insurer for partial salary relief. If that was to occur, Cordner would not be able to play in the first three rounds of the 2021 season.

The other element is whether the NRL will provide the Roosters with salary-cap dispensation if Cordner decides to take 12 months out of the game. While no one at the Roosters wants to play next year without their inspirational leader, it could solve the salary-cap conundrum the club currently finds itself in.

[OMR]

Why Cordner could sit out all of next season

Sydney Roosters captain Boyd Cordner will be asked to consider sitting out the entire 2021 NRL season as he battles through the latest concussion drama that threatens to cut short his career.

The Herald has been told by sources close to Cordner that the likely option set to be posed to the NSW back-rower will be to sit out at least six months, potentially up to 12 months, before deciding whether to play rugby league again.

There are grave concerns over the health and welfare of the 28-year-old, with family and friends now pleading with him to consider taking an extended time out of the game to consider his future following Wednesday night's latest head knock in the State of Origin series opener.

The emotion of it is still raw, and the prospect of retirement doesn't sit well with Cordner, who is struggling with the idea of calling it quits with another three years to run on his deal with the Roosters.
This column has spoken to several of Cordner's closest confidantes, who all believe the back-rower needs some time away from the sport to properly consider his options and priorities without the emotion of the ordeal clouding his judgment.

The tragic death of his cousin Joel Dark earlier in the year following a head knock during a local first-grade game in Newcastle is still weighing heavily on Cordner's mind.

The innocuous collision with Queensland's Felise Kaufusi at the Adelaide Oval last week, coupled with Cordner's history of head knocks, appears to have decreased the level of impact required to trigger a concussion. There is a hope that an extended period out of the game without any contact sport may help him build up a resilience to head knocks. The hiatus could also provide him with time to realise that things may never change.

Cordner left the Blues bubble a few nights ago and has returned home, where friends and family have been offering their support. One of the conversations that will no doubt be had will be pointing out all he has achieved throughout a decorated career, achieving more before the age of 28 than most players could ever dream, including three premierships, three State of Origin series victories and a World Cup.

The first priority for the Roosters is Cordner's welfare, but there will come a time in the not too distant future where they will have to start thinking about the financial implications of having their $750,000-a-season captain sitting at home.
Like the Bulldogs did after Kieran Foran was injured playing for New Zealand at the end of last year, the Roosters will be entitled to apply to an insurer for partial salary relief. If that was to occur, Cordner would not be able to play in the first three rounds of the 2021 season.

The other element is whether the NRL will provide the Roosters with salary-cap dispensation if Cordner decides to take 12 months out of the game. While no one at the Roosters wants to play next year without their inspirational leader, it could solve the salary-cap conundrum the club currently finds itself in.

What bloody salary cap conundrum? They keep bringing it up as if they have inside knowledge of the roosters deals and players salaries.

[Johnny73]

If I were Boyd, I'd retire. He's achieved everything that any league player could want to achieve. Captaining the Roosters, N.S.W. and Australia to wins, including two grand finals victories, along with another win in 2013. He needs to think about his long term health, with the knowledge of C.T.E. and its terrible effects.

[NorthChook]

What bloody salary cap conundrum? They keep bringing it up as if they have inside knowledge of the roosters deals and players salaries.

I believe the original plan did not have Jmoz and Bmoz re-signing, as well as Friend as they weren't sure of his future - but they made room for them to be re-signed. As well as making room to sign Suaalii.

That is why we released Farmer and Flanno essentially - not in future plans and could not afford to keep them on our books if not used.

On top of this we already re-signed Keary, and need to upgrade Teddys contract too.

and then other players currently off contract for 2022 (so can negotiate elsewhere now) include Liu, Lam, Tupou, Smith, Tuipulotu, Verrills, Crichton, Sitili and Walker.

So i'm sure the media don't know our exact situation but there is definitely a lot of juggling to go around in the near future.