Warren Ryan comment

[Guest]

In any language, even the simple one you try and pass as English, Rugby is UNION, as in RUGBY UNION......League is LEAGUE AS IS Rugby League......the two are not the same, and never will be.....and only a rah rah wanker would try and pass them off as similar....

Still don't get your point... there's many ways one can refer to footy...
Rugby, league, union, rugby league, rugby union, footy, football... take your pick. I think it's pretty clear that I'm talking about rugby league when I say "rugby"...

You "sir" are one of those people who think that only someone who has played a game has any knowledge of it, whereas your posts show me exactly the opposite......

What has been wrong?
1) Centres are backs... it's a fact, the other clown was wrong when he called them forwards and interchanged props duties with centres duties.
2) Rugby League is commonly called rugby (believe it or not... not that I care really.)
3) I like both league and union... so shoot me! In my eyes it only makes me a bigger fan because I can respect both league and union, and learn from what happens in both. You on the other hand cannot... I suppose all I can say is that that's quite 1-dimensional (a bit like the Rooster's current gameplan)... but whatever rocks your boat I guess.

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PS - Could you and your friend please cease this incorrect spelling of things that you don't respect? If anything, that's what I find the most confusing. ha... ha... ha... so you find union boring so you say "yawn-ion" okay... joke and point taken... more on. You could even call Souths by their real name (or the Bunnies/Rabbits...) I apologise if that's just how you naturally say "Souths" when speaking due to some kind of speech impediment.

[Guest]

Actually, historically that is incorrect.

Alot of GG fans in the past were associated with souffs.
Where as Easts fans would be supporters of the beasties.

Either way... that's my alignment, and after playing for Souths Juniors I'm a Roosters fan, enough said.

The point I was making is that lots of people support both league and union, and I think you've furthered on this point by mentioning that there's also players who support both Easts and the Roosters. Lots of people just like watching/playing footy. It's the armchair fans who picture this huge union vs league battle where you're either with us or against us...

[supermario]

Either way... that's my alignment, and after playing for Souths Juniors I'm a Roosters fan, enough said.

The point I was making is that lots of people support both league and union, and I think you've furthered on this point by mentioning that there's also players who support both Easts and the Roosters. Lots of people just like watching/playing footy. It's the armchair fans who picture this huge union vs league battle where you're either with us or against us...

Some people just love league more and think League is more appealing than what union is.

generally, when you come on to a rugby league website, that will be the case.

originally, league was formed to break away from union, there is no point comparing the 2.

it;s like the saying goes, Same same but different.

[stsae]

ROFLOL, its back.

Sirgaydickhead you are fooling nobody.

Why dont you just man-up and admitt what we all know.

I still have some contacts in both Easts and Souffs jnrs, who did you play for and when???? You must have been a champion, youve told us all how it is often enough now.

[Guest]

it;s like the saying goes, Same same but different.

True, I hear you.
I like both so meh... not trying to promote any world views here, that's just a fact of life.

[stsae]

True, I hear you.
I like both so meh... not trying to promote any world views here, that's just a fact of life.

Bullshit. You want to question and rubbish others opinions and whether theyve ever played or not, not that it should matter whos played what. Opinions are like arseholes everyones got one.

You also want to compare apples and oranges by lumping two codes into one. Fact is the two games are that far apart, especially in the forwards at the highest levels, comparisons between the two are pointless.

You sirgaydickhead are full of it.

[Guest]

ROFLOL, its back.

Sirgaydickhead you are fooling nobody.

Why dont you just man-up and admitt what we all know.

I still have some contacts in both Easts and Souffs jnrs, who did you play for and when???? You must have been a champion, youve told us all how it is often enough now.

Uuum... Randwick is not the same as Easts.

No, I was ordinary... I loved footy and trained hard as a junior; but always lacked size and technique. I'm not going to reveal my identity obviously, but I'd say if you asked any of your "contacts" IF they knew me (and that's a big IF... lots of juniors go through both clubs every year) they'd probably say "yeah he had a good heart mate... always tried hard..." with a bit of a wink at the end.

So I didn't make it as a professional in footy... damn.

[Guest]

Bullshit. You want to question and rubbish others opinions and whether theyve ever played or not, not that it should matter whos played what. Opinions are like arseholes everyones got one.

You also want to compare apples and oranges by lumping two codes into one. Fact is the two games are that far apart, especially in the forwards at the highest levels, comparisons between the two are pointless.

You sirgaydickhead are full of it.

Where have I compared the 2 on their merits as a spectator? My only comparison was with the tackling techniques, where I backed up another poster's opinion that low tackles are good for taking down big men. Low tackles are called "union tackles" by most people who respect both codes. This in no way makes either code of football greater or worse; it's a real apple and orange situation.

Sure... I've played both and enjoy watching both. I respect both and am definitely a Roosters fan when it comes to league... you seem to be the one rubbishing me by saying I'm not a real fan.

Not sure what's getting you so fired up champ? During such dark times for the Roosters I would have hoped you'd be a bit more open to constructive discussions about the shortcomings of the Roosters' current tactics. Personally I find it a fascinating topic because I want to know how the Roosters can start winning again!!!

Inevitably we will disagree on some philosophies... do you think the Roosters would be losing if we all knew how to fix them?

[stsae]

Uuum... Randwick is not the same as Easts.

No, I was ordinary... I loved footy and trained hard as a junior; but always lacked size and technique. I'm not going to reveal my identity obviously, but I'd say if you asked any of your "contacts" IF they knew me (and that's a big IF... lots of juniors go through both clubs every year) they'd probably say "yeah he had a good heart mate... always tried hard..." with a bit of a wink at the end.

So I didn't make it as a professional in footy... damn.

So dont you get who Easts are????

You really reveal more than you realise every post.

I didnt question your ability as a player, I asked what clubs you played for and when. Google it if you cant think of any clubs in the area, I wont be offended.

Remember you bought up that you played and I couldnt possibly know what I was talking about because I obviously didnt play the game. I still fail to see where your opinion is correct over anyone elses opinion, whether theyve ever laced a boot or not.

[stsae]

Where have I compared the 2 on their merits as a spectator? My only comparison was with the tackling techniques, where I backed up another poster's opinion that low tackles are good for taking down big men. Low tackles are called "union tackles" by most people who respect both codes. This in no way makes either code of football greater or worse; it's a real apple and orange situation.

Sure... I've played both and enjoy watching both. I respect both and am definitely a Roosters fan when it comes to league... you seem to be the one rubbishing me by saying I'm not a real fan.

Not sure what's getting you so fired up champ? During such dark times for the Roosters I would have hoped you'd be a bit more open to constructive discussions about the shortcomings of the Roosters' current tactics. Personally I find it a fascinating topic because I want to know how the Roosters can start winning again!!!

Inevitably we will disagree on some philosophies... do you think the Roosters would be losing if we all knew how to fix them?

Have you read this whole thread back???

Have you read where I said I agree with low grassing 1 on 1 defence but its not rewarded these days in the NRL, the whole dominant/surrender shit?? (I think that was in the game thread)

Yawnion tackles, thats crap. We taught the other code how to tackle effectively. John Muggleton from memory was the first defensive coach to go across, Peter Ryan im sure is another.

You obviously didnt live thru the 80s and early 90s?? You aint seen dark days as yet.

I only questioned your fan status after you questioned if I ever played the game then when informed I had you used that in a sad attempt to dismiss my opinion on the game.

As for me being fired up, you sure dont know me, I doubt anyones seen me fire up on the net. Its all fun and games to me sirgaydickhead.

[Guest]

So dont you get who Easts are????

Most commonly Easts are the rugby union club... the Beasties. The Sydney Roosters are the Roosters.

Since I played for Randwick and Souths Juniors it is rather strange that you then go on to mention that you have contacts at the Sydney Roosters as if they would know me quite well. So... you've made 1 of 2 possible mistakes:
1) You called Randwick "Easts" (understandable as you admittedly hate Rugby Union)
2) You told me that some of your "contacts" at the Roosters might know me seeing as I played for Randwick. Seeing as they are 2 different clubs from 2 different codes this seems a bit of a silly question. Bit like "hey I've got some contacts over at Sydney FC... where did you say that you played Rugby as a junior again?"

[Guest]

Most commonly Easts are the rugby union club... the Beasties. The Sydney Roosters are the Roosters.

Since I played for Randwick and Souths Juniors it is rather strange that you then go on to mention that you have contacts at the Sydney Roosters as if they would know me quite well. So... you've made 1 of 2 possible mistakes:
1) You called Randwick "Easts" (understandable as you admittedly hate Rugby Union)
2) You told me that some of your "contacts" at the Roosters might know me seeing as I played for Randwick. Seeing as they are 2 different clubs from 2 different codes this seems a bit of a silly question. Bit like "hey I've got some contacts over at Sydney FC... where did you say that you played Rugby as a junior again?"

You are either 14 years old or extremely ignorant..

Since 1908 we have been known to hardcore supporters as Eastern Suburbs Roosters..

The name "Sydney City" & then "Sydney Roosters" came in the 90's..

If you want to take the "high ground" in a conversation at least get your facts right..

I'm still laughing at you post that LEAGUE could learn from Union (or more commonly known as yawnion) defence..

What a joke..

All they have done since they went professional is get in LEAGUE ex-players as defensive coaches..

For faaarks sake Less Kiss coached a Seth Efrikan Super 14 side

[Guest]

You forgot the defensive giant and former North Sydney winger Les Kiss who was the NSW Defensive coach for a number of years.

[stsae]

Most commonly Easts are the rugby union club... the Beasties. The Sydney Roosters are the Roosters.

Since I played for Randwick and Souths Juniors it is rather strange that you then go on to mention that you have contacts at the Sydney Roosters as if they would know me quite well. So... you've made 1 of 2 possible mistakes:
1) You called Randwick "Easts" (understandable as you admittedly hate Rugby Union)
2) You told me that some of your "contacts" at the Roosters might know me seeing as I played for Randwick. Seeing as they are 2 different clubs from 2 different codes this seems a bit of a silly question. Bit like "hey I've got some contacts over at Sydney FC... where did you say that you played Rugby as a junior again?"

Never ass-u-me, im sure you know the rest of the story????

Easts are Eastern Suburbs District Rugby League Football Club to me. You see you reveal your era there, cos anyone old enough wouldnt question what I mean in that respect.

I didnt say anyone I know would know you??? I dont know your name afterall. I have moved from the Eastern Subs now, but presume the Easts clubs still play in the Souffs comp???? Thats the impression I got from friends with their kids still playing in the area and that was all happening as I gave up playing and coached. Anyone who actually played or coached in either area would have many contacts. Ive met more than one person on these forums who I knew or knew of as a youngster from playing footy.

I never stated I hate Yawnion. I didnt give an opinion. I simply stated a fact, Poms are the only ones who call League, Roogby. Over here we refer to Leaguies as Leaguies and Yawnionites as Yawnionites.

All I asked was where you played, as in whach clubs, and what era, as in a few years ago or 20+yrs ago. I suspect youre pretty fresh out of school by your attitude and you lack of knowing for example who Easts are.

Either that youre just another troll whose trying their best but failing. Ive seen plenty of it, some very similar to this tactic, getting onto a clubs site when their struggling, playing along and big noting their fantastic knowlege of all things Easts, but coming up short when actually questioned as to WTF youre on about.

Nothing wrong with being young or supporting another team. I just think when you offer 1/2 the story, as you have, its easy to be just playing games.

Remember you went on about you being a player of both codes and you knew what was wrong with Easts and you knew us armchair critics are wrong. You rubbished my opinion on more than one occasion especially about the roles of front and back rowers in this era of the game. You didnt have any substance to your solutions though, you didnt even seem to understand tighter forwards roles compared to wider standing forwards roles.

Im gathering you dig now???

[Chookies74]

Wow, thanks guys, this has taken my mind off how sh*t the roosters were last night.
Not that it counts, but...
I love the chooks, and yes us oldies still think of them as Easts.
I also love rugby, and to really understand the game I think you need to have played it, otherwise it can very easily be seen as a 'weird' game'.
When I lived near the Duke of Gloucester I used to watch Randwick a lot, so I prefer them to Easts.

Since professionalism, union defences needed to, and have, improved massively.

As a result, other than the tight 5, players in both codes have been and increasingly will, interchange (with a 12 mth transition) reasonably easily.

Fulltime professional footballers has meant that the days of the use and them mentality is over.