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    • Ooooh, a frightening assembly of Boogie men if there ever was one, Not a half way flattereing photograph among them. All this stuff belongs on the Ukraine/ Western propaganda thread of course, you're polluting a serious discussion, one that truly concerns us,

      One benefit, however, is that we get to see the more extreme examples of crude, rabid, right wing propaganda that we wouldn't normally come across. See? That's where CIA money goes - glossy assaults on your emotions.

      * Again, The Brookings Institute conducted the poll about national satisfaction with leadership world wide The CCP rates over 90%. Harvard University would not carelessly hold itself up to riicule. I've written a drama scene which appeals to reason and you're in it. What? You didn't even read it?

      * The other 90% mentioned is that percentage of world opinion which does no buy the "Russia evil" line re Ukraine. It was compiled and reported on by Newsweek and represents non Western opinion. One can pretty safely say, however, that the same percentage figure applies to any issue involving the US.

      It is most disappointing to find that you haven't read/understood the numerous posts that have explained all of this.
      Last edited by Paddo Colt 61; 02-20-2023, 08:53 AM.

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      • Originally posted by Paddo Colt 61 View Post
        All this stuff belongs on the Ukraine/ Western propaganda thread, you're polluting a serious discussion, one that truly concerns us

        One benefit, however, is that we get to see the more extreme examples of crude, rabid, right wing propaganda that we wouldn't normally come across. See? That's where CIA money goes - glossy assaults on your emotions.
        It is over there as well PC Sally is spamming this site with his propaganda
        When you trust your television
        what you get is what you got
        Cause when they own the information
        they can bend it all they want

        John Mayer

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        • Originally posted by Conspiracy Theorist 61 View Post
          A survey I made-up but will attribute to Harvard says that 90% of people in the world think Russia and China are utopian societies and the CIA's responsible for all catastrophic world events.
          An Oxford survey that I stumbled upon says that 99% of people think you're full of shyte.

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          • Originally posted by ism22 View Post

            An Oxford survey that I stumbled upon says that 99% of people think you're full of shyte.
            Can you please provide demonstrable evidence such as a link
            When you trust your television
            what you get is what you got
            Cause when they own the information
            they can bend it all they want

            John Mayer

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            • Originally posted by Andrew Walker View Post

              It is over there as well PC Sally is spamming this site with his propaganda
              I thought that's what all these threads were for. After failing to establish that there was a CIA conspiracy to rig the 1975 election, old mate just freestyled into telling us that everybody loves China.

              The merry-go-round of weird propaganda continues. You're loving it ay? I see what you're doing LOLz...

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              • Originally posted by Andrew Walker View Post

                Can you please provide demonstrable evidence such as a link
                Yea https://www.ox.ac.uk

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                • Originally posted by ism22 View Post
                  Fascinating reading and there appears more to read when I have more time. In saying this it does appear to be an opinion piece
                  When you trust your television
                  what you get is what you got
                  Cause when they own the information
                  they can bend it all they want

                  John Mayer

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                  • Originally posted by Andrew Walker View Post

                    Fascinating reading and there appears more to read when I have more time. In saying this it does appear to be an opinion piece
                    One of their highly esteemed academics who I've never heard of but now believe to be an intellectual heavyweight as his opinions align with mine has provided some more opinions on Ukraine FWIW:

                    Originally posted by Dr Rob Johnson - Director of the Oxford Changing Character of War Centre, Senior Research Fellow of Pembroke College, and Associate of the Department of Politics and International Relations, University of Oxford
                    The license Putin and his immediate entourage give to use extreme violence, propagate fantasies, and ride roughshod over others had generated a culture of extremism and barbarism, where atrocities are normalised
                    Source: https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2023-02-17...t-and-prospect

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                    • I'd say that he has Russia confused with the USA. If he makes such a statement and doesn't put the US in the same basket, he's a fraud, a propagandist.

                      All you need to do Izzy, is to Google "Brookings Institute world survey of population satisfaction with government. Then it's right there, 90% are lovin' it and can't get enough!

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                      • Originally posted by Paddo Colt 61 View Post
                        Ooooh, a frightening assembly of Boogie men if there ever was one, Not a half way flattereing photograph among them. All this stuff belongs on the Ukraine/ Western propaganda thread of course, you're polluting a serious discussion, one that truly concerns us,

                        One benefit, however, is that we get to see the more extreme examples of crude, rabid, right wing propaganda that we wouldn't normally come across. See? That's where CIA money goes - glossy assaults on your emotions.

                        * Again, The Brookings Institute conducted the poll about national satisfaction with leadership world wide The CCP rates over 90%. Harvard University would not carelessly hold itself up to riicule. I've written a drama scene which appeals to reason and you're in it. What? You didn't even read it?

                        * The other 90% mentioned is that percentage of world opinion which does no buy the "Russia evil" line re Ukraine. It was compiled and reported on by Newsweek and represents non Western opinion. One can pretty safely say, however, that the same percentage figure applies to any issue involving the US.

                        It is most disappointing to find that you haven't read/understood the numerous posts that have explained all of this.
                        Comrade Paddo your posts are pure propaganda though - only Andrea, Country Practice and the Closet Red believe it and they are well on the way to being brainwashed the same as you have been

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                        • Originally posted by Paddo Colt 61 View Post
                          I'd say that he has Russia confused with the USA. If he makes such a statement and doesn't put the US in the same basket, he's a fraud, a propagandist.

                          All you need to do Izzy, is to Google "Brookings Institute world survey of population satisfaction with government. Then it's right there, 90% are lovin' it and can't get enough!
                          1. Incorrect, he was referring to Russia. Apologies that this does not line-up with your world views.

                          2. As discussed some time ago, there's no such survey comparing democracies with dictatorships. However, my web searching suggests that conspiracy theorist are widely misquoting the Bennett Institute's report on 'Global Satisfaction with Democracy' to support their agenda by inserting official CCP satisfaction figures into the conversation (started by a western university) about why faith in democracy is at an all time low.

                          If you are truely interested in the Bennett Institute's report then I recommend you have a read of the full 60 page report (it's pretty light reading) and pay close attention to their analysis rather than focusing on how conspiracy theorists have misused cherry-picked data from it (see full report at https://www.bennettinstitute.cam.ac....Report2020.pdf).

                          I'll end with a quote I like is that about what's causing distrust in democracy:

                          Originally posted by Bennett Institute - Report on Global Satisfaction with Democracy
                          If anything, the rise of populism may be less a cause, than a symptom of this weakening legitimacy: without it, it would have been unthinkable for a U.S. presidential candidate to denounce American democracy as rigged and corrupt
                          Populism! The MSM... the anti-democratic rhetoric of US presidents like Donald Trump are responsible for people living in developed democracies having doubts about its effectiveness. Well I be...
                          Last edited by ism22; 02-20-2023, 09:53 PM.

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                          • Originally posted by Paddo Colt 61 View Post
                            I'd say that he has Russia confused with the USA. If he makes such a statement and doesn't put the US in the same basket, he's a fraud, a propagandist.

                            All you need to do Izzy, is to Google "Brookings Institute world survey of population satisfaction with government. Then it's right there, 90% are lovin' it and can't get enough!
                            Go join then - migrate

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                            • Coincidentally Kingsley, there's a timely and edifying piece on Menadue today. Jocelyn Chey, former Australian diplomat to China and current Professor at UWS, cites the "Edelman Trust Barometer" which measures trust in government world wide. Again China leads the world which gives the lie to Right Wing claims that the wheels are falling off over there. Oz media accepts the Edelman findings with regard to Australia but is strangely silent on China which makes it the daddy of inconvenient truth. But I'll leave you to read the article and will await a sober reasoned response.

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                              • Originally posted by Paddo Colt 61 View Post
                                Coincidentally Kingsley, there's a timely and edifying piece on Menadue today. Jocelyn Chey, former Australian diplomat to China and current Professor at UWS, cites the "Edelman Trust Barometer" which measures trust in government world wide. Again China leads the world which gives the lie to Right Wing claims that the wheels are falling off over there. Oz media accepts the Edelman findings with regard to Australia but is strangely silent on China which makes it the daddy of inconvenient truth. But I'll leave you to read the article and will await a sober reasoned response.
                                I’ve been a little busy today and have only just read this piece So here it is for others

                                https://johnmenadue.com/whom-can-we-...and-australia/
                                When you trust your television
                                what you get is what you got
                                Cause when they own the information
                                they can bend it all they want

                                John Mayer

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