Minus Western propaganda what's the real story on the Ukraine?

[Jacks Fur Coat]

Wrong Kling, I did do my research but never did I say it was a success. I was just pointing out the agricultural importance of Ukraine and how the US and the USSR actually shared ideas and were collaborative during the Cold War. Hence the term Peace Grain.

It was Nongs picture of Esme, where he fat shames me and likens me to a wombat, that drew the attempt to get back on topic.

A picture of a wombat eating a piece of corn is fat shaming you?

[A Country Member]

A picture of a wombat eating a piece of corn is fat shaming you?

You of all people know that I’m a fat bastard

[Jacks Fur Coat]

You of all people know that I’m a fat bastard

Haha...its ok mate some on here think you are PC61 number 2. My tiny mind can't even process that concept.

[redwhiteblue]

Esme Watson reminds me a bit of Connie. Gossipy old nag who tries hard to make friends with any newbies in town.

Post of the year Jack

Connie is very obsessed with my marital status for some reason...I'm planning on watching some more of A Country Practice over the winter as it's free to stream.

[ism22]

Post of the year Jack

Connie is very obsessed with my marital status for some reason...I'm planning on watching some more of A Country Practice over the winter as it's free to stream.

I believe this has something to do with a certain forum member sharing your full name, marital status and other such details through the private messaging system. Whatever makes them tick, I suppose.

However when they then start trying to draw people into pro-Russia/China arguments across multiple threads then please pardon me for having my suspicions about the integrity of their posts.

[Andrew Walker]

Post of the year Jack

Connie is very obsessed with my marital status for some reason...I'm planning on watching some more of A Country Practice over the winter as it's free to stream.

I know you are a spinster and Jaxx a bachelor was just trying to help you shed this tag you so despise . Deep down we all love to match make However Ive realised the error of my ways and now know you have no romantic interest in Jaxx. Pity though you would make a lovely couple

[ism22]

Rumours are starting to emerge that Wagner group may be preparing to overthrow Putin.

https://www.businessinsider.com/puti...er-2023-5?op=1

[eddie]

I'm a bit confused after seeing Vladimir Putin on telly yesterday.
He described the recent drone strikes on Moscow as war crimes and terrorist acts.

I know I'm supposed to take msm reporting with a grain of salt, but hasn't Russia been attacking Ukraine cities and killing civilians for months now?..............or is it fake news.

[mightyrooster]

Oh how convenient another plane falls out of the sky killing a few pesky enemies. Probably all fake news.

[Paddo Colt 61]

There you go again MR, that deep seated belief that the US is, despite its many "mistakes", a force for good unlike those evil sneaky Russians. Like everyone else, you have no idea what occurred re that plane crash but straight on board with the anti Russia insinuations you go.

Something more sinister was the role that the US played in the air crash death of Dag Hammarskjold, the UN Secretary General, in Rhodesia in 1960. Hammarskjold had restructured the UN so that it was no longer a cypher of the US. The Americans have always refused to to make their intel on the crash public. There are other crashes involving progressive national leaders especially African one and, of course, the numerous US assassination attempts on Fidel Castro. But the White Knight would never do such things would they?

[mightyrooster]

No I was just trying to prove my point that it happens on BOTH sides. So is Putin going to come out and admit he was involved? I doubt it somehow. It was just an act of God fortunately for Putin.

[Random Rooster]

Oh how convenient another plane falls out of the sky killing a few pesky enemies. Probably all fake news.

Unlucky hey. Who would have thought........

[Paddo Colt 61]

Yep fake news like most MSM reporting. The guy was no threat to Putin. His mercenary force had abandoned him. By the way the US has a mercenary outfit too, Academi (formerly Blackwater), but we never hear about that. Maybe they're good mercenaries unlike the evil Russian version?

The irony is that if the US took out, say Trump, in the same way there would be little talk of handy coincidences. What really happened to Kennedy?

[mightyrooster]

I think you're missing the point I'm trying to make Paddo. I've never said the US are not guilty when it comes to propaganda and spreading fake news. But I don't believe you have ever said the same of Russia and Putin. Putin such a model citizen and leader, he would never resort to such tactics himself.

[Jacks Fur Coat]

Let's just ease off our key allies a bit, and focus on the obvious assailant. Mad Vlads hit list of those who met tragic "accidents" after daring to question him...reads like a list of Souths people registered for a Conflict Res course.